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"And I Love Her" Lyrics
I have a question regarding the lyrics for this song. Is "You'd love her to" intentionally misspelled? I know that would be in line with Lennon's humor, but just wondering. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 768regnar (talk • contribs) 21:13, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Where are you getting the lyrics? It could just be a typo. Mingmingla (talk) 22:54, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The first lyrics page I googled has it as "too". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:58, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * My copy of The Beatles Lyrics has it as "too", which is correct. where have you seen it spelt "to"? DuncanHill (talk) 04:49, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Surprisingly, googling "And I Love Her" + "You'd love her to" gives over a million hits, while "And I Love Her" + "You'd love her too" gets less than 100,000. Of course some of the former include other uses, such as "you'd love her to pieces", "you'd love her to know", "you'd love her to the point of going mad", etc, but the first pages of search results I went through were all only about the lyrics. Obviously a lot of copying has been happening here, I wonder where "website zero" would be in this case. ---Sluzzelin talk  21:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, a refined search of ""And I Love Her" + "And if you saw my love" "You'd love her to(o)" now gives over 200,000 for "too" and less than 90,000 for "to". I don't understand these numbers at all, but there are a lot of different lyrics websites using "to" instead of "too". ---Sluzzelin talk  21:55, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * My impression is that a lot of lyrics sites have incorrect spellings, and, often enough, incorrect words. Many of these sites are unofficial, created by fans and other enthusiasts. I wonder if there has ever been an objective analysis of the general, overall accuracy of them? HiLo48 (talk) 22:27, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * These search results make me wonder, is it just a typo or a Freudian slip? 24.5.122.13 (talk) 19:30, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Or maybe a little joke being played by the transcriber. But more likely either misunderstanding the lyric, sloppy proofreading, or just not knowing the right spelling. I've seen a lot of folks write "to" when they mean "too". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:23, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep. Just reverted an actual incorrect change of spelling of exactly that form at Olivia Newton-John. Amazing. HiLo48 (talk) 22:37, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * That particular error is becoming worryingly common. And it seems to be a relatively recent thing, which suggests to me that many misspellers actually know the difference but prefer to ride on the "too = to" bandwagon in order to be seen to be fitting in, and in so doing, dumbing themselves down to the lowest possible level.  Education used to be top-down; now it's becoming bottom-up. The exponential rise in information availability has been matched by a corresponding drop in people actually having knowledge of stuff we used to take for granted.  This is progress?  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  06:17, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
 * to bad, so sad ... ---Sluzzelin  talk  21:57, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Two bee or not too bea ... --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:17, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

The Open channel
Hi, can anyone tell me about the Open channel, which I believe was the UK's first interactive shopping channel in 1999. I know it launched on 12 October and was available through Sky Digital. Is it still on air? If not, what was its fate? I found a couple of references announcing its launch, but not much else. Can anyone help? Thanks. This is Paul (talk) 22:45, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Did it change names? You may be able to find something at Category:Shopping networks in the United Kingdom.  -- Jayron  32  22:58, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * There's a Guardian article about its demise (in 2001) here. DuncanHill (talk) 23:04, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, This is Paul (talk) 23:25, 22 May 2014 (UTC)