Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2015 April 6

= April 6 =

Trying to find Bruckner piece
I found this video recently, and have been trying to identify the piece the excerpt comes from, since it sounds really familiar. As someone who's listened to a couple Bruckner symphonies in the past year, I'm pretty sure this is definitely from one of his symphonies, but I'm not sure which one. There are a couple ideas I have -- for instance, I'm pretty sure this isn't symphony no. 7 -- but particularly without the aid of a score or the use of a large chunk of time, I'm having trouble figuring this out with confidence. Anyone have any ideas? --Morningcrow (talk) 01:21, 6 April 2015 (UTC)


 * It's the beginning of the scherzo from his Symphony No. 8 in C minor (you hear the "Deutscher Michel theme" played by the celli and violas). They cut out a bit around 0:44, so you're hearing the beginning and ending of the first part of that movement. For comparison: here's von Karajan with the Vienna Philharmonic in 1979. ---Sluzzelin talk  10:28, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Depression or not?
How do you tell when you have depression rather than just feel a bit down? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SnugglyOctopus (talk • contribs) 03:23, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Depression is more than simply feeling unhappy or fed up for a few days. Depression can come in many different ways and forms and can cause a wide variety of symptoms. You may lose interest in things that you once felt a very strong connection with. Or you may be constantly tired, sleeping badly, no appetite, or having physical aches and pains. And all of these symptoms can vary in intensity. There are even some online tests that can test for the level of the symptoms if you're down for that sort of thing. Sometimes it can be tricky to tell if you're just down for a day or actually in a depressed state. Most of us go through stages in our life where we feel down, but a lesser amount of people have this feeling for more than a month or two. There are more symptoms that come from depression such as difficulty concentrating, and an inability to enjoy things that you once did. Self harm is also a red flag when it comes to depression. If you know someone who has been causing harm to him/herself than you should consult a doctor or a professional. There are ways to improve your mood however. There are medications and programs that can help you crawl out of that slump. You can step back ans self reflect on the good days. You can listen to good music, go for a walk, wrtie about your feelings, and do something spontaneous.

References http://tinybuddha.com/blog/30-ways-to-improve-your-mood-when-youre-feeling-down/ http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/depression/Pages/Introduction.aspx http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-131576/Are-depressed--just-down.html

Sulfate33 (talk) 03:59, 8 April 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sulfate33 (talk • contribs) 03:55, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

The duration of negative emotions is an important indicator of depression or sadness. While sadness can be a fleeting emotional state, depression is an illness that lingers for a longer period of time - up to a number of years. In addition, some symptoms of depression are constant fatigue, impaired concentration and a loss of pleasure in activities you once enjoyed. You can relate the difference between sadness and depression to the difference between normal cell division and cancer. Cell growth and division are normal processes of the human body. If cell division enters and uncontrolled state we consider that condition cancer. Likewise, sadness is a normal human emotion. If that emotion becomes uncontrollable, we label the condition as depression. Bigblueuk (talk) 04:09, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

There can be a lot more to depression than just sadness or feeling down. See Depression (mood) for starters. But certainly see a doctor about this if you think or even suspect you may be in the zone. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:18, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Analyzing sources Skpw222 04:21, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Dosing sports players for fun and profit? This article is about whether some sport players intentionally take illegal enhancement drugs to help them in sports or external factors influence their choice to use their drugs. This article was written on the 5th of April and the author used three sources to back up his work. His first source http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/15/health/armstrong-ped-explainer/ was taken from a 2013 CNN health article. His second source was an encyclopedia http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Performance-Enhancing_Drugs.aspx which is a credible source of information. And his final source http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/03/josh-hamilton-will-not-be-suspended-by-mlb-for-admitted-drug-relapse was an article taken from a newspaper source. In general his article is legit because they are backed up with credible sources even though some of the sources are not very recent, they are not too old to be statistically insignificantly

Source to question:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=Dosing%20sports%20players%20for%20fun%20and%20profit&fulltext=Search&profile=all — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skpw222 (talk • contribs) 04:21, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Movie shot in Toronto High Park with Raven gang
What was the name of the film where a group of teenagers were holding a man captive at the top of the tree and they were afraid of a gang called the Raven? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.34.178 (talk) 04:22, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
 * That's Treed Murray. Deor (talk) 12:35, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Versions of "Ask" by The Smiths
As a longtime fan of the The Smiths, I am aware that there are two slightly different versions of the song "Ask": the version of the original issue singles which (in typical The Smiths fashion) wasn't included on any studio album, and a slightly different mix that was later included on compilation albums. My question is which version of the song is included on The Very Best of The Smiths? This is probably the only recording I don't personally have and I haven't been able to find any reference online. Our article on the song indicates that the original single version was used on this album, but our article on the album says it is a "new mix", seemingly indicating a third version. Which is it?--William Thweatt TalkContribs 07:28, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Drinks breaks in soccer
When did matches played in hot weather start having intervals for players to have a drink? Hack (talk) 14:31, 6 April 2015 (UTC)


 * This gives the rules regarding the breaks. This indicates that it was the 2014 World Cup in Bras(z)il where this first occurred. It might have happened earlier and if so other editors will be able to give you the specifics. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 15:26, 6 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Fifa did not mandate an interval until the 2014 World Cup as said by MarnetteD above. This was due to a court order. There may have been local rules for non-internationals before this but no ruling from the governing body. Players have for a long time been free to take on bottled fluids from the touchline whenever they wish, with the bottles themselves only allowed on the pitch during a break in play. The breaks all stem from Ireland's experience in the 1994 World Cup in the USA and discussions had been rumbling on since then. Bagged water was allowed on the pitch following that, but those bags turned out to be useless. In 1994, there were 15min periods of play where drinks could be offered to nearby players - but this wasn't a break in play. Subsequently some players couldn't get to the touchline at all. So to answer the question - mandated in 2014 but prior to that, up to the competition or referee on the day. Nanonic (talk) 16:17, 6 April 2015 (UTC)