Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2015 May 23

= May 23 =

From promotion to relegation via administration
Dear Wikipedians,

In association football, clubs sometimes go bust after the end of the season and are automatically relegated as a result. Has this ever happened to a team which was, prior to going bust but after the end of the season, going to be promoted? 78.148.229.209 (talk) 09:30, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Southampton F.C. would have been promoted at the end of the 2009/10 season if they hadn't been carrying a 10 point financial penalty from the previous season, and Swindon Town F.C. were denied promotion in 1989/90 - the original penalty was for them to be relegated (to the Third Division) rather than promoted (to the First), but it was commuted to merely staying in the Second Division. This was for rule violations, though, not for insolvency.  No club has (to date) avoided promotion due to financial penalty points deducted in the season they should have been promoted. Tevildo (talk) 19:39, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Where could I find English subtitles of the film Apoorva Sagodharargal and Kaaviya Thalaivan?
Hi, I was searching for the English subtitles of the Tamil films Apoorva Sagodharargal and Kaaviya Thalaivan. I've searched on all popular subtitle websites including subscene.com and subtitles.net, but couldn't find it..! Can anyone help me..?-- Jos   eph   10:46, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Teddy bear film
I'm looking for the title of a cartoon with a teddy bear waiting to be sold in a display window with other toys (e.g. jack-in-the-box). Finally, when someone wants to buy him, the shop owner refuses. The teddy bear then realizes that the shop owner and the other toys have been his family the whole time. --2.245.201.220 (talk) 20:01, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * This is The Tangerine Bear (2000), starring Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Tevildo (talk) 20:42, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Simpsons
Why are the Simpsons yellow? Does Homer Simpson have jaundice or something? --Uenich Montich (talk) 20:31, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I think you mean jaundice? Joseph2302 (talk) 20:32, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * About halfway down here, in an interview with one of the show's producers: "... because Bart, Lisa and Maggie had no hairlines, and if you made them flesh-colored it would look very strange." Yellow appears to have been an arbitrary choice. Mingmingla (talk) 21:20, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Not quite arbitrary. They would have to be a color that seems normal for both hair and skin, or at least close to normal (I suppose they could have gone with green or purple, but that would have made them harder to relate to).  Yellow is close to blonde hair and close to the color of Oriental or Caucasian skin.  The other good option would have been brown, but that would have made everyone think they were an African-American family.  That wasn't the way they wanted to go with the main characters.   StuRat (talk) 21:59, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Yet, nobody ever thinks they were supposed to be Asian. Perceptions of race have more to do with facial structure than skin colour.  They don't have typical African-American features, so even if they'd been given brown skin I doubt many people would have assumed they were African-American.  --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:35, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I think I recall one episode in which Marge refers to "yellow folks like us". It seems an obvious way of putting the characters outside of any racial category. Alansplodge (talk) 22:59, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * That's just an in-joke, like the "four finger discount" mentioned once and "poor little Maggie never seems to grow at all". They do have races and ethnic groups on The Simpsons.  For example, Carl is black and Krusty is Jewish.  The Simpsons are Caucasian, or as close to Caucasian as one can get in Springfield. StuRat (talk) 00:21, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
 * At least outside of Homer's darkest fears. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:46, 27 May 2015 (UTC)


 * There is another episode where Reverend Lovejoy's daughter calls Bart "yellow trash". Adam Bishop (talk) 08:38, 24 May 2015 (UTC)


 * If you're going to mostly restrict your palette to primary colors, yellow would seem to make the most sense for skin. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:27, 24 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Depending on your vantage point, the Simpsons aren't yellow at all. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:48, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Though yes, they still are yellow in the general series in Africa. That'd be too much work. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:50, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Ignored details in a fictional universe
In The Flash, the meta-human criminals are put into a secret prison that only about a half dozen people know about. The show never goes into how these criminals are fed, bathe, where their waste goes or even if they have access to a toilet, etc. Is there a blanket term for these things that are just ignored in a fictional universe? Dismas |(talk) 23:32, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * It'd normally be just a plot hole, but I think there was one episode where someone started to raise the issue, but was interrupted before an answer came up. If I'm correct about that, that would be Lampshade Hanging. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:39, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I hope that Cinema Sins expands to TV series someday, and point this kind of stuff. Because no TV series is without sin. Cambalachero (talk) 23:45, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I think a bit of The Law of Conservation of Detail with a hat-tip to Nobody Poops. Nanonic (talk) 23:46, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you all! Dismas |(talk) 04:51, 27 May 2015 (UTC)