Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2015 May 30

= May 30 =

Deez Nuts
The article Deez Nuts is about an Australian hardcore band, but it also includes a disambiguation link saying "For the Dr Dre song, see The Chronic". However, the article on The Chronic contains no reference to this phrase. So what is the connection between the phrase and Dr Dre? And can someone please fix the article on The Chronic so that the disambig link makes sense?

As an aside, I am well aware that the phrase is some kind of internet meme. It seems like cutting off one's nose to spite one's face to make the primary article with that name about some hardcore band no-one's ever heard of, rather than being an article about the meme itself. It means that one has to go to some place like Urban Dictionary to learn the meaning of the meme. Frankly, I would expect Wikipedia to be the prime source of such information. --Viennese Waltz 07:26, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * If it's a meme, it's a very old one. The "Deez nuts" phrase dates back to at least the early-to-mid 1990s, before the Internet was a major force in popular culture. I used it when I was in my teens and young adulthood, which is long enough ago.  Stack Exchange has anecdotal evidence that the phrase dates to at least 30 years ago, which would definitely predate the Internet as we know it.  This Reddit thread also has anecdotes citing the same joke as the Stack Exchange one, "Do you like CD'S... What CD's?  see Deez Nuts!" and cites it to the 1980s or so.  -- Jayron 32 16:44, 30 May 2015 (UTC)


 * BTW, the Stack Exchange link given above explains the Dr Dre connection. Rojomoke (talk) 17:02, 30 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Regarding your last point, WP is not a dictionary; I'm not sure why you would expect it to be a prime source of information for a joke meme. Best case scenario, it would collect previously published information (hopefully from reliable sources). Matt Deres (talk) 17:26, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * And yet we have a whole category called Category:English-language idioms, with articles on such gems as "Keeping up with the Joneses" and "Jumping from the frying pan into the fire". It's not clear to me why phrases like that deserve their own article, whereas something like "deez nuts" doesn't, except that the latter doesn't seem to have been around for as long. --Viennese Waltz 17:36, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:NAD is frequently misappropriated. All it means is that Wikipedia articles about words should not only be the definition.  Wikipedia can have good encyclopedia articles about words.  It's about how to format articles about words, and what information should be in them.  Not about the concept of having an encyclopedia article of a word.  Of course, if the only reliably sourced information on a word or phrase is it's dictionary definition, there probably shouldn't be an article.  But that's true of anything.  -- Jayron 32 18:43, 30 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm astonished that anybody could connect the phrase "very old" with the phrase "early-to-mid 1990s", but I suppose that's the march of time. "I grow old … I grow old … I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled".  Alansplodge (talk) 15:07, 31 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I consider myself very old. At 38, I'm a dinosaur compared to most of these kids around here these days... -- Jayron 32 00:00, 1 June 2015 (UTC)


 * If only I were 38 again, and know what I know now ... But actually, on reflection, the year I turned 38 was extremely significant in my life, so no, I wouldn't have changed a thing. --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  20:43, 6 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I think you're reading too much into this. Yogurt from the early-to-mid 1990s would be very old yogurt. On the flip side, as a singer of music from the 1500s, I'm always amused when people talk about "oldies". -- BenRG (talk) 07:45, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Good point. Thanks for cheering me up. Alansplodge (talk) 17:22, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * A quick scan of the track list showed a link to this: Deeez Nuuuts. I've modified the disambig link accordingly. That article also gives a little info on the phrase itself. MChesterMC (talk) 09:20, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * There we go, thanks! It's not that the phrase is just associated with Dre, it's that an alternate spelling is the title of a famous song! SemanticMantis (talk) 14:08, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Music in Mapp And Lucia
Can someone tell me the name of the piece of music being played by Lucia and Georgie in episode 1 of Mapp and Lucia (BBC TV series). It starts at 36:38 in this ABC iview episode. Mitch Ames (talk) 07:50, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Link only works in Australia. --Viennese Waltz 07:59, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I think I've found it - Movement Three: Rondo Alla Turca (Turkish March) from Piano Sonata No. 11 (Mozart). Mitch Ames (talk) 08:04, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Kids song
OK - so we've lost the CD, and my son really wants this song, but I can't remember the band or album title. 1. It's a kids song, from a kids music band. 2. Its a sort of country / banjo sound to it. 3. It's about sheep. 4. It's sung by a woman. 5. It opens with a line about 'white clouds, little white sheep from the seat of this big old jumbo jet' - the clouds are sheep she's watching. 6. There's a rapid listing of different breeds of sheep in the song. 7. She mentions 'mint sauce' as something she likes about sheep, then says 'Sorry Sheepie!' 8. The chorus is "Sheep!" then a one-liner, one of which is "Sheep! A tasty kind of meat!" Would love it if someone recognized it! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.5.224.11 (talk) 19:07, 30 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Sadly, it seems to be unknown to the internet, as far as I can tell. Alansplodge (talk) 19:22, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * - yes - I've done some searching for the lyrics I remember, but I think they are not listed anywhere that's indexed - I'm just counting on someone having it and recognizing it! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.5.224.11 (talk) 19:31, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Ah! Got it ! Thanks! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-rJIW_6Bfc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.5.224.11 (talk) 19:49, 30 May 2015 (UTC)


 * We have an article on both Zoë Lewis and the album Sheep. DuncanHill (talk) 10:48, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Time travel themed Where's Waldo type picture book.
I'm trying to find a Where's Waldo type picture book I had as a kid in the 90s. It was illustrated, not photography, so that rules out I Spy. The main theme (I don't remember any characters) was time travel: One page was set in medieval times, another was set in a 1960s type American city with a parade, and the last page was set in the future, where everything was chromed. You had to find specific items (ex: Gas can for your stuck time travel machine, radio, etc) in every page, not any characters. I think that's all I remember. Anyone have any ideas? YukiMuonMadobeNite (talk) 21:43, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Might it be this one? Deor (talk) 23:22, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid it's not that. Thanks though. YukiMuonMadobeNite (talk) 18:30, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Just to rule out the obvious...could it be Where's Wally Now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.165.113.20 (talk) 21:54, 4 June 2015 (UTC)