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Titanic (1996 miniseries) - Questionable scene
In the 1996 miniseriesTitanic, why is there a brutal sexual assault scene?

Why does Simon Doonan rape Jamie Perse's girlfriend Aase Ludvigsen?

Rape is when you force someone to have sex with you against their will and sex is commonly/generally associated with love, not with hate.

If Doonan does not like Aase, why does he have sex with her?

Why does he not slap, punch, kick or beat her up?

When Doonan walks into her shower, he says that he's gonna beat her up, not rape her.

When a woman finds her, she says that she's been beaten, not raped.

Jamie tells the woman that he would never hurt her and tells a ship crew member that she's been hurt.

That is morally brutal and morally violet.

In common/general, violence dwells on pain or injury.

Not on sex.

And violence is commonly/generally associated with hate, not with love.

Also, why is the miniseries rated 12?

Brutal sexual violence is associated with rated 15 and 18 films, not with rated U, PG and 12 films.

That moral violence was not featured in other Titanic films, especially animated ones.

That scene was disturbing and hard to watch.86.166.253.166 (talk) 22:14, 26 November 2015 (UTC)


 * The motivations for rape have been the subject of much thought. There's some material here and here and here. You asked a very similar question about rape a little while ago; a lot of the replies to that question also apply to this current one. 99.235.223.170 (talk) 04:04, 27 November 2015 (UTC)


 * And that sort of spacing is better for poetry than prose. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:26, 27 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I wonder why the OP, who found the thing "morally violent, disturbing and hard to watch", persisted regardless, and then came here to pass their judgment. As for "Why does he not slap, punch, kick or beat her up?", is he suggesting that that form of violence would have been perfectly fine? --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  20:36, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Perfectly fine, from a character development point of view, if the viewer presumes rape is love and thinks the rapist doesn't like her. Moot point, anyway, since the article notes she was brutally raped and beaten. The OP should already know this. Here's some tranquil music. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:55, 27 November 2015 (UTC)