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= October 21 =

Qualification of football team in Copa Sudamericana and Copa Libertadores
In this possible scenario, São Paulo FC finished the Campeonato Brasileiro Série A last season in 6th place and was qualified to participate Copa Sudamericana second stage. This season, they have won the Copa Sudamericana and was qualified to this season's Copa Libertadores. Then, they have also won the Copa Libertadores and they finished the Campeonato Brasileiro Série A champions this season. In this perfect case, will São Paulo FC can both participate again in Copa Sudamericana and Copa Libertadores next season? Or they will only be qualified to next season's Copa Libertadores? Mphba (talk) 00:35, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


 * They should play in both. If the 2014 Copa Sudamericana tournament rules are still used, this year's Copa Sudamericana champions qualify for both next year's Copa Sudamericana [rule 2.3 on page 5] and next year's Copa Libertadores [rule 1.5 on page 2]. The 2013 Copa Sudamericana champions Club Atlético Lanús played in both in 2014 ( 2014 Copa Sudamericana, 2014 Copa Libertadores ) and the 2014 champions Club Atlético River Plate played in both in 2015. ( 2015 Copa Sudamericana, 2015 Copa Libertadores ). jnestorius(talk) 18:58, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

beitar jerusalem
Considering it well-known that at least in recent years (if not ever since founding) the team has a bigoted history even amongst secular/leftist jews. I was wondering what happens when the games every season at their ground feature Arab players/managers (I imagine their must be some Arab coaches at top teams). Also do the Jewish teammates of the Arabs turn out in support of their teammates against the bigotry? (what with Jews from Arab countries/Arab speakers).Lihaas (talk) 03:56, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't have any direct knowledge of this, but you can find some good related info and sources at Beitar_Jerusalem_F.C. and La_Familia_(Beitar_supporters'_group). SemanticMantis (talk) 14:31, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Yevadu Film
I'm born in America but my Parents originated from India.

1. If people are saying that Retaliation is Wrong in SVU episode Grief during 2003, then Why did the Actress refuse to call Cops to Arrest the Hero to push Villian out of the Window in Yevadu Film 2014?

2. Seriously be honest is It becuz there are Diferent Rules between America & India?(166.177.248.154 (talk) 22:11, 21 October 2015 (UTC)).


 * I'm assuming you're speaking about Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (which is commonly abbreviated SVU), checking Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (season 4) shows an episode titled "Grief". The second work you mention appears to be the 2014 film Yevadu.  Here's the answer: Both works you mention are works of fiction.  The first rule of fiction is "tell a good story."  The second and all subsequent rules of fiction are "See first rule."  Seriously, we cannot answer as to the motivation behind fictional characters or the rationales behind their actions because those characters do not exist, except as fictional characters, for the time period when they were doing what they were doing.  They act as they do, and say what they say, because the authors, writers, directors, etc.  tell them to do that.  The connection between what a character does is not necessarily connected to how real world events would normally occur, largely because real life is both boring and complicated; to make them interesting enough for a TV show or movie, and simple enough for audiences to understand, fiction writers do what is called "making stuff up".  That is, after all, what fiction means.  In the specific example, SVU is a work of fiction called a police procedural.  The connection between what the actors do in the work of fiction, and what actual police officers do in their actual jobs is tenuous at best, and often times bears no resemblance to the way the actual job works.  As I have an inside information with someone who works in the field, I can say that something vanishingly close to 0% of what goes on in those shows resembles what the actual job of police work is like.  -- Jayron 32 23:07, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


 * That last pipe is kinda interesting. —Tamfang (talk) 08:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Maybe the Actress doesn't agree that retaliation in this case was wrong. Maybe she thinks that calling the police will cause even more trouble. —Tamfang (talk) 08:34, 22 October 2015 (UTC)