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= October 4 =

Music by Charlie Parker
I was searching for a song I down loaded some time ago, and found it in Google that a version of the song "Summertime" was written by Charlie Parker. But when I looked in at the list of songs by him it was not listed, Why is that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.169.193.198 (talk) 02:47, 4 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Because Charlie Parker did not write Summertime. He may or may not have written a "version" of it, but that is unlikely to be included in a list of songs "by" him, even if it is true.--Shantavira|feed me 08:31, 4 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Charlie Parker certainly recorded a version of "Summertime" (Youtube link), which was written by George Gershwin for the operetta Porgy and Bess. Parker may have arranged it, and as a jazz soloist he certainly took liberties with Gershwin's melody, but he didn't write it. --Nicknack009 (talk) 12:41, 4 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Another thing I thought 70.169 might have meant is a contrafact by Charlie Parker based on "Summertime", as a lot of his (and other bebop pioneers') compositions were based on older standards (and a decent number were based on one other Gershwin tune, "I Got Rhythm", see our article on rhythm changes), but I couldn't come up with a Bird composition based on "Summertime". In fact, there is no Summertime contrafact mentioned on our list of jazz contrafacts at all, and the only famous one I could think of is "Four On Six", but it's by Wes Montgomery. ---Sluzzelin talk  22:33, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Instant replay booth location
The Clemson-Notre Dame college football game is on the TV right now. Some minutes ago, there was a disputed call, and while the replay officials were deciding what to do, the cameras turned to the ESPN play-by-play announcers: their booth was immediately above the fans (the base of the booth was a wall behind a row of fans, whose heads were just below the booth's floor), and the replay officials were adjacent to the TV guys, so they too were literally just a few feet away. Is this a normal location for this booth? I'd expect the replay officials to be separated from the crowd by much more than about ten feet, for example, to protect them from tomato-throwers. Instant replay in American and Canadian football says that plays in NCAA games are reviewed from a "secure booth in the press box"; the scene didn't appear secure and didn't appear to be in a special press box, but that section isn't cited and perhaps I misunderstand the typical location of a press box. Nyttend (talk) 02:56, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, most replay booths are in the press box. I guess it depends on what their definition of "secure" is, as I do not see any good reliable references to define their requirements. Reminds me of the first paragraph of Safe room, where really the only protection in the simplest form of safe rooms is just "an exterior-grade solid-core door that has a deadbolt and longer hinge screws and strike-plate screws". The "secure press box" may just be a reinforced door and then the secure communication line to the referee on the field. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:10, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Hiatus
There's a rumor that Little Mix is going have a hiatus on 2017 to find their new fifth member?Chandelia16 (talk) 05:05, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * So? As stated above, we cannot predict the future.--Shantavira|feed me 08:34, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * As you are aware, the OP is asking us whether the rumour is true. This is a question that can be answered with references. --Viennese Waltz 10:52, 4 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Is the question whether they intend to pause, have announced a pause, or will in fact pause? —Tamfang (talk) 00:19, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Welsh rugby team kit
Sporting question: does anyone know the reason why the Wales national rugby union team wore their "away" black kit in their recent match against Fiji (playing in white with black shorts)? Wales' normal kit is red with white shorts, so there would have been no confusion. I was hoping some explanation would appear in the article or one of the match reports, but I've not found anything. Optimist on the run (talk) 08:13, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * All teams have to wear their away colours for one pool match. Wales chose to wear theirs vs Fiji. This is because their is no Home/Away team designation for the World Cup as all venues are deemed neutral, first choice on dressing rooms and kits is by coin toss. If the opposing team colours do not clash then losing the coin toss just means they can choose which kit to use (as long as the alternative does not clash either) but all teams must wear their alternative kits at least once during the group stage. From the Telegraph article " Wales will also wear their away kit by choice against Fiji for their match on Oct 1, while South Africa will also be in a change kit for the match against Scotland on Oct 3. The process of allocation of changing room and team kit for each fixture was determined by a coin toss undertaken last year by the team managers and overseen by tournament officials, as has been the case at previous World Cups. Following the coin toss, which took place at the team managers’ meeting in November 2014, Team A had two months to confirm its choice for each area to tournament organisers. As per tournament rules, if the primary kit of the two teams in a respective match did not clash, ‘Team A’ were allowed to choose to wear its alternate kit if this then did not force ‘Team B’ to also wear its alternate kit." Nanonic (talk) 09:24, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for a good comprehensive answer :-) Optimist on the run (talk) 18:04, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

YA book to identify
I'm trying to recall a book I read many years ago, probably in the mid-1980s, though obviously it could have been written much earlier. There's a girl who has a pet coati and she and a boy are at some kind of archaeological dig (in Mexico maybe?) and they have to scare off some thieves who have come to steal the artifacts. There's some kid-level trickery involved, like playing recordings on a loop and shining flashlights against cardboard cut-outs to create adult-sized silhouettes, etc. I thought that it was perhaps related to E. L. Konigsburg's book, From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler because I thought they also ended up staying at a museum, but I could be conflating two unrelated novels. Despite coatis not being particularly common elements to kid's books, searching has turned up nothing promising. 99.235.223.170 (talk) 16:27, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds as if it may be The Turquoise Toad Mystery by Georgess McHargue, reviewed here (though it's apparently the boy rather than the girl who has the pet coati). Deor (talk) 13:32, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The title isn't ringing a bell with me, but it's been decades and that summary sure seems to hit a lot of the plot points. Thank you for your detective work! I'll try to find a copy through the local library. 64.235.97.146 (talk) 19:13, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

identify a song
Hi there,

I'm looking for a song.

I can't remember the lyrics, well. What I do remember, is that there was a female singer, singing in very high frequency, something like "It's real... it's real love". The lyrics that I wrote might be all wrong, so focus on the description of the singer.

This is an old song, which was very popular then. I believe it was in English.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exx8 (talk • contribs) 18:33, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I Feel Love by Donna Summer, perhaps? Tevildo (talk) 19:11, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * nope :\ Exx8 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:14, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. We're therefore going to need a bit more information.  Do you know how old the record is (60s, 70s, 80s), or what genre it is (disco, pop, power ballad)?  Can you tell us anything more about the singer?  It might be an idea to think about the differences between your record and "I Feel Love" - is your record faster or slower?  Does it use different instruments? Tevildo (talk) 09:32, 5 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Not a female singer, but Real Love (Beatles song) was recently covered by Tom Odell - see Tom Odell - Real Love on YouTube. Alansplodge (talk) 12:32, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Imma go with "Lovin' You" by Minnie Riperton . --Viennese Waltz 12:47, 5 October 2015 (UTC)