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= August 1 =

The Waltons - Robert Wightman as John-Boy/World War II survivors
1. In the 8th and 9th seasons and 1 movie sequel of The Waltons, why was John "John-Boy" Walton Jr. played by Robert Wightman, instead of Richard Thomas? 81.145.108.28 (talk) 15:06, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * As mentioned here and here, Richard Thomas left to do something else. The vast majority of the time, when an actor is replaced in a film or TV series, it is because the actor didn't want to do the character anymore, and so the producers either have to "write the character out of the series" (c.f. "Chuck Cunningham" in Happy Days) or they replace the actor (as with John Boy in The Waltons, Aunt Viv in Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Darren in Bewitched, etc.)  -- Jayron 32 15:28, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sometimes, it wasn't that the actor didn't want to play the part anymore, they just couldn't. The first Darrin had a back injury that got worse, and the original Gladys Kravitz (also in Bewitched) died. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:59, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

2. Did all of the Waltons survive the Second World War? Did they suffer any illness, wounds or injuries? 81.145.108.28 (talk) 16:22, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * If you want to know, you're quite allowed to watch any of the Waltons media set after WWII. As the later seasons cover both the War and Post-War years, you can just watch the show to find out.  Also, the Wikipedia article titled The Waltons discusses many of the major character's experiences during WWII.  -- Jayron 32 18:25, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Please do not answer questions from this source IP:81.145.108.28. This user has been banned multiple times for block evasion, silly questions and an obsession with rape and sexual matters. David J Johnson (talk) 22:31, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Longest soccer team goalless run
Hi all, RNK Split have just failed to score in their eleventh (11th) match in a row, 8 during the 2015/16 Prva HNL and 3 in the present edition. No other competitive matches did they play during the run. So, what are the records? 31.217.0.98 (talk) 17:08, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * According to this site, the record holder is Ergotelis FC, with 18 consecutive goalless matches. Tevildo (talk) 19:35, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Those are generic 0:3 defaults. 31.217.50.10 (talk) 11:17, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Explain, please? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:19, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * A technical win, if the team forfeited the match for whatever reason, a 3-0 win is awarded to the other team. The team was presumably excluded from the league for some reason. Fgf10 (talk) 11:28, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * So it wouldn't really be a "goalless game", it would be a non-existent game - basically a placeholder. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:34, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Well not really, as does actually count as a 3-0 win in the rankings for the other teams generally, I think. They get the 3 points for the win, 3 goals on their goal difference etc. The game wasn't played, but it still counts. Fgf10 (talk) 16:29, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure, a standard score, like 9-0 in baseball forfeits. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:47, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Spot on, Fgf10. I imagine there could be a separate record for a season and another for a calendar year. I was expecting definite answers by now, people :) 31.217.40.132 (talk) 13:09, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The longest record I can find is Stirling Albion with eight months and 14 matches without scoring in 1980/81 - source (7th question from top). Perhaps RNK will make history. Deserter 1   talk   13:54, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Get over here. He's a soccer expert (or at least knows the game well) and might know where to find such info. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:32, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

The question needs more definition. Football has a notoriously tricky system for comparing different international leagues. In some countries there are many layers of professional football. In some countries, even the top level is amateur. So a third-rate clogger from a leading nation's second division could go to another country's top division and be a superstar. Imagine a weak NFL team's fourth-string quarterback going to play American football in the UK - he'd be the best player by a street. Which is one reason why stats governing world-wide achievements at club level aren't really given much credence/attention. I'm not even sure they're recorded. The BBC link above from, giving British records is a good reliable start point. Any claims made by fan sites etc to a world record should be treated as unreliable unless they give some kind of solid source. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 10:09, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * OP here: Mr Dweller, I imagined your examples but they don't apply. There are several national divisions in soccer befitting respective skill- and infrastructure-levels of all sorts of clubs. Fifth division English team firing 11 blanks against fellow fifth division teams? That's something, trust me pal. Not to mention if it happens in a stable national A-league. So, the real question remains: which football club has gone on the most competitive matches in a row without scoring a goal? And don't play philosophical, the original question was well-versed. Splićanin (talk) 00:48, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * No one gets paid here. We are not your servants. So don't lecture us on how good your question was. Also, are you actually in Croatia, or are you using a proxy server? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:19, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Unlike cricket, with its well-defined systems of establishing the level of competition at sub-national level, football has no equivalence between national competitions and this is probably why no significant repository of statistics exists to answer to these kinds of questions, unlike cricket which has two grandpappies of it (Cricinfo and Cricket Archive) as well as many wannabes. And I'm very sorry if you don't like that, or find it philosophical, but it's just the way it is, some things will never change. (But don't you believe it) --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 08:46, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Dweller, you'll end up in snooker and bandy for the sake of proving your point, I honestly skim-read it as soon as I saw cricket. Buggsy, born-and-bred Croat. Cheers. Splićanin (talk) 14:10, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Aha! Ever been to a resort called Koversada? I've heard that as small as it is, the tourists still get plenty of exposure. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:16, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * That's so far away in Croatian terms, never even heard of it until now. Maybe because there are roughly 4.28 million places to go swimming and enjoy the Mr Sun Sun, Mr Golden Sun in Hrvatska. Come pay a visit and I'm taking you to a good ole game of foote-ball. 31.217.92.97 (talk) 16:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

The record for Bulgaria is held by the now-defunct club Rakovski Ruse, which, during the 1996–97 season of the Bulgarian top-level division, failed to score in 19 matches in a row and finished last in the table with 1 draw and 29 losses out of 30 matches. The article bg:ФК Раковски says that this is actually a record for any European top-level division, and while no source is cited to support that claim, Rakovski's record is, in any case, way worse than Split's current record. --Theurgist (talk) 12:31, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

At an international level San Marino went more than 20 games without scoring a goal. On 11th October 2008, they lost 1-3 at home to Slovakia in a 2010 World Cup Qualifier, and then did not score another goal until 14th August 2012, when they lost 2-3 at home to Malta. Interestingly, they also hold the record for the fastest scored goal in World Cup Qualifying history, when Davide Gualtieri put them 1-0 up, after just 8.3 seconds, in a home match against England on 10th March 1993, however, they ended up losing 1-7 Jaseywasey (talk) 20:27, 4 August 2016 (UTC)