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= August 9 =

Help sought identifying a Hindi movie starring Shammi Kapoor
What black and white (probably late 50s or early 60s) movie with Shammi Kapoor is the following scene from? Shammi is driving in an open convertible with a woman (can't tell which actress) and they're both singing something that contains (among others) the words "humne pyaar ho gayaa" (हमने प्यार हो गया, i.e. "we fell in love"). We see them from the back. At some point Shammi turns around and gestures to the camera (and thus the viewer) to get lost. It feels like the final scene of a movie. Can you tell which one? I saw that scene in the series of programs about Hindi cinema called "Movie Mahal" that was shown on Britain's Channel 4 back in the late 80s, but the program gave, in this particular instance, no information whatsoever regarding either the song or the movie this scene was from. It was the last of two programs in the series dealing with Shammi Kapoor's movies and this scene was the last scene of that particular episode. (I think it was the 16th instalment of "Movie Mahal"). I actually watched that on YouTube, but unfortunately those videos have now been removed, so I can only describe the scene verbally, I can't refer you to an actual video of it. Thanks. Contact Basemetal   here  16:59, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Was the movie "Sholay" shown on BBC in 1997?
I vaguely seem to recall that the BBC showed the movie "Sholay" in 1997, along with other stuff they did for the 50th anniversary of India's independence. Is that correct? Contact Basemetal   here  17:05, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Not according to this site, which is the BBC's archive search engine for the Radio Times. According to IMDb, the UK TV premiere of the film was in 1995, but no details are given. This _may_ refer to a satellite broadcast by Pen India Limited rather than a terrestrial broadcast. Tevildo (talk) 19:58, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * UK TV (specifically Channel 4) had shown it as early as December 26 1982. Agree that if it's not on Genome then BBC didn't show it. Nanonic (talk) 20:10, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys. Contact Basemetal   here  12:03, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Was the beginning of this tune from Hindi movie "Army" lifted from a Western or an African tune?
The beginning of the tune "Achikoo Bachikoo Kachikoo", specifically the tune the words "achikoo bachikoo kachikoo sabse pyaaraa hai munnaa too" (i.e. अचिकू बचिकू कचिकू सबसे प्यारा है मुन्ना तू) are sung to, from the Hindi movie "Army" (1996) (with Shahrukh Khan and Sridevi) sounds strangely familiar to me. Can you tell if it was lifted from some other song (I'm thinking either an African or a Western tune, and if so which one?) or is it just that it is one of those genius tunes that sounds like it's always been around even though it is actually original? Contact Basemetal   here  17:48, 9 August 2016 (UTC) PS: If you're curious about the song in context here it is in the movie (that's 1 hour 44 minutes and 40 seconds into the video).


 * It's a rip-off of "Day-O (The Banana Boat Song)", a traditional Jamaican song that was popularised by Harry Belafonte's 1956 recording. --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:43, 9 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks Jack. So that is why that tune sounded familiar! Alas, this is not the first time a Bollywood composer has borrowed a tune without any acknowledgement. No mention of this in the WP article either. Contact Basemetal   here  12:07, 10 August 2016 (UTC)