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= February 10 =

Double songs?
The album Diploid Love contains this track, Meet The Foetus/Oh The Joy (with a fun video and catchy second part, IMO). Green Day's Insomniac has the track Brain Stew/Jaded. Now, we could say that inhabiting the same track makes them one song. But the title, music and lyrics make it clear that these are two separate things, that are nevertheless intended to be listened to together with no break in between. These are the examples, the questions are: Thanks, SemanticMantis (talk) 17:23, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Is there a name for this sort of thing? I know some classical music comes in movements, but those don't seem to commonly have individual names, and they often aren't on the same single track in a vinyl or CD album. Also I think there are usually more than two movements. My examples are definitely not medleys, nor mashups, nor any of the other names I know of that indicate putting songs together in tight sequence.
 * 2) Any lists of such double songs, or just good entries for the list? For the purposes of this question, lets rule out classical music, I'm mostly interested in any genre of popular music since ~1950.


 * Even if not listed as separate songs, some have radically different segments, such as both Thriller and Knights in White Satin starting with spoken poetry, then moving on to the song proper. StuRat (talk) 17:42, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * "Nights", not "Knights". Mingmingla (talk) 20:59, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Good catch. Apparently there is another song by the spelling I used, hence the lack of a redlink. StuRat (talk) 21:03, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Interesting question. Other data points: Paul McCartney was noted for writing songs with multiple movements like that, I.E. Band on the Run or A Day In The Life.-- Jayron 32 17:55, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * These are all good at capturing the idea of one song with very different parts, but the two-names-and-single-track thing is what I'd most like other examples of or ideally a name for. Another example: We Will Rock You and We Are the Champions mostly fit my criteria, as they are commonly played on the radio together like my examples above, and our article says they were designed to be run together. They are listed as separate songs on News_of_the_World_(album), but I'm not sure if they were in the same track. SemanticMantis (talk) 18:06, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Heartbreaker/Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman) from Led Zeppelin too. And Foreplay/Long Time from Boston and Eruption/You Really Got Me from Van Halen I.  -- Jayron 32 20:06, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Then there's the 8-song medley that forms most of the second side of the Beatles Abbey Road album. -- Jayron 32 20:19, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In from The 5th Dimension. Sugar Magnolia/Sunshine Daydream from the Grateful Dead.  -- Jayron 32 20:55, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Just found the Wikipedia article List of musical medleys which has a lot of examples as well. -- Jayron 32 20:56, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, the Soft Cell version of Tainted Love famously also blends into Where Did Our Love Go. The original radio single didn't include the mashup, but the extended 12-inch single did, and that version is the one commonly heard on the radio today.  -- Jayron 32 20:59, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The Kings' "This Beat Goes On/Switchin' To Glide" is worth a listen. Mingmingla (talk) 21:00, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Nice, I wasn't aware of that. SemanticMantis (talk) 16:55, 12 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Fleetwood Mac's song The Chain is actually a hidden double song; the first song ends before the bass solo in the middle of the song, which starts the second composition (the "running in the shadows..." part) -- Jayron 32 21:05, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * On the radio, two Pink Floyd songs are actually usually two song medleys. Time (Pink Floyd song) is almost always played alongside the Breathe reprise, and the radio version of Another Brick in the Wall is most commonly played as a two-song mashup of The Happiest Days of Our Lives/Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2).  -- Jayron 32 21:10, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Continuing the Floyd examples, there are also "Speak to Me"/"Breathe" which are often played one right after the other. StM being an instrumental that leads into B. And then the final two songs of the same album, "Brain Damage"/"Eclipse" are also normally played one right after the other. And then Queen's two songs "We Will Rock You"/"We Are the Champions" are nearly always played one after the other. Dismas |(talk) 00:41, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Good stuff, I should have known that Floyd


 * Does the Simon & Garfunkel recording "Scarborough Fair / Canticle" count? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:20, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is squarely one of the best entries here, since the songs shared a track on the album, and the slash is part of the single name for the track that consists of two songs. (this gets tricky to talk about but I thin you get it :) SemanticMantis (talk) 16:55, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I think some of Gilbert & Sullivan's songs are introduced separately and then are sung together, although I would have to check to find specific examples.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baseball Bugs (talk • contribs) 17:21, 12 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Al Stewart, "Murmansk Run/Ellis Island". Suzanne Vega, "Ironbound/Fancy Poultry". --Viennese Waltz 09:22, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks all, some of these happen to be great songs in addition to being interestingly named and combined, which is part of why I got curious. By the way, in case anyone is still interested I did find this TVtropes entry on "Siamese twin songs". Many of the examples are more from tradition of combined radio play than shared album track but it also includes some examples that fit my stricter criteria. SemanticMantis (talk) 16:55, 12 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Here's the G&S song I was thinking of, "When the Foeman Bares His Steel": Spoiler alert: It all turns out well in the end. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:47, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

List of all the Cartoons (2D & 3D) Movies and Television series
I'm searching for the "List(s)" of all that came out till to date. Can somebody help me please? -- Apostle (talk) 18:43, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you want a fully comprehensive list of cartoons in English, or in any language? Either way, it's not going to happen if only because the number is very very high.  However, you can look at List of animated feature films and List of animated television series.  I don't either of them are remotely exhaustive. Mingmingla (talk) 20:56, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * And the list of animation shorts. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:55, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Which is far from complete. See also the list of one-shot Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer animated shorts. Tom Turkey & His Harmonica Humdingers sounds delightful. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:01, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay I'll view through, thanks guys -- Apostle (talk) 11:18, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

List of all the Movies and Television series
I'm searching for the "List(s)" of all that came out till to date. Can somebody help me please? -- Apostle (talk) 18:43, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

A list of all movies ever made? Someone's gonna engage into a good ol' binge-watch. 2A02:582:C74:6C00:AD33:FC48:E45D:CBD8 (talk) 19:11, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * -- Apostle (talk) 19:22, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I doubt you'll find a single comprehensive list. We have Lists_of_films and lists of television series, each of which contains many lists. SemanticMantis (talk) 19:41, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * IMDB would be a good source. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:16, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I could easily write a short program to open all five million IMDb entries. —Tamfang (talk) 09:25, 11 February 2016 (UTC)


 * LoL.
 * Thank peeps. Regards -- Apostle (talk) 11:19, 11 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Tamfang makes a valid point. Listing them all on one page wouldn't be very useful, as just loading the page would take too long, much less looking through it.  Better to have the list in a database where you can do searches based on partial matches, etc.  I believe IMDB already does this, in their search bar.  You can also do a Google search with "site:imdb.com" added, to restrict finds to that site. StuRat (talk) 14:22, 11 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I viewed the website. I would love use it but it will drain my kbs. I have to maintain the kbs for a month every time I top-up... Only extremely important stuff, that's if WP doesn't have it... I've saved the website however, hopefully (if I can save some money) in the end, I'll do a proper search... If you guys can find and refer the index page where it goes by year to show all the films that were created, it will be helpful... -- Apostle (talk) 19:50, 11 February 2016 (UTC)


 * IMDb has the worst search engine in the known universe. Use at your peril. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:15, 12 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Lol. Oki doki -- Apostle (talk) 18:26, 12 February 2016 (UTC)


 * This, and all the ads at IMDB, is why I included the way to search their pages using Google. StuRat (talk) 23:28, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I have no idea how many of those five million are TV series episodes, tho. —Tamfang (talk) 02:11, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Leonard Maltin's annual book on movies (last published in 2014, I think) lists pretty much every theatrical or TV film ever made which has been available some way or another. There are well over 10,000 of them. That's what you're up against. And obviously way too many to construct a "list" article here. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:41, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Noted! Thanks! -- Apostle (talk) 18:26, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Town Musicians of Bremen
I am searching for a steampunk(-ish) animated film adaptation of Town Musicians of Bremen from around 1997. Does it ring a bell? 2A02:582:C74:6C00:AD33:FC48:E45D:CBD8 (talk) 19:09, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It does! It was called The Fearless Four and came out in 1997. Tevildo (talk) 19:35, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I was searching for it for some time. 2A02:582:C74:6C00:AD33:FC48:E45D:CBD8 (talk) 19:57, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

What's that ship in Star Wars: The Force Awakens?
In Star Wars: The Force Awakens, when Rey and Finn steal the Millennium Falcon from Unkar Plutt and fly off into space, they get captured by some kind of even larger spaceship, which pulls the Millennium Falcon inside it. Then they meet Han Solo and Chewbacca, and two gangs of criminals show up.

What is that large spaceship? Does it belong to Han Solo and Chewbacca? Were they piloting it?

And where did the two gangs of criminals come from? J I P &#124; Talk 20:06, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * As usual, Wookieepedia has all the answers. The ship is the Eravana, the two gangs are the Guavian Death Gang and the Kanjiklub. Staecker (talk) 21:24, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, so the ship belonged to Han Solo and Chewbacca, and the two criminal gangs were not originally present aboard it, but found it and boarded it by force. Is that right? J I P  &#124; Talk 21:29, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * From my two watchings of the film, I'd say that you're correct. The article on the Eravana seems to agree with me since it says "Han Solo's freighter, the Eravana, had been boarded by two notorious criminal factions..."  (emphasis mine) Dismas |(talk) 00:46, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * By the way, the reason this is confusing is because of J.J. Abrams' understanding of both the Star Trek and Star Wars universes - despite taking place on a galactic scale, everything coincidentally happens all at once all in one place. Adam Bishop (talk) 11:38, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That's hardly unique to Abrams. The original Death Star was the size of "a small moon" and it just so happens that the dock the Millennium Falcon got forced into was walking distance to the cell containing Leia? Sure. ;)