Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2016 February 22

= February 22 =

Rogelio de la Rosa: November 12, 1914-November 16, 1986 or November 12, 1916-November 10, 1986?
I'm aware of what his Wikipedia page says, but what are really the correct birth and death dates for Rogelio de la Rosa?

This site says he was born November 12, 1914 and died November 16, 1986: http://www.andropampanga.com/bio/rdelarosa.htm

This site says he was born November 12, 1916 and died November 10, 1986: http://senate.gov.ph/senators/former_senators/rogelio_dela_rosa.htm

Which site is correct? Ebaillargeon82 (talk) 08:45, 22 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Well let's see. The first was written by some CPA, while the second is from the Philippine Senate. Which would you trust? The latter did get his age wrong (70, rather than 69) - unless it's calculated differently there. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:33, 23 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I did a google book search and the November 12, 1916 birth date seems to be correct. As for his date of death, an excerpt of a 1986 (the year of his death) issue of "National Midweek" (Quezon City: Lagda Publishing Incorporated) reads:

"Actor and diplomat Rogelio de la Rosa died of a heart attack November 26 at the home of his sister-in-law in Little Baguio, San Juan, Metro Manila. He had recently turned 70."

That's the first paragraph. I can't access the rest of the article. But here is where it says he died November 26: https://books.google.com/books?id=TxsTAQAAMAAJ&q=%22Rogelio+de+la+Rosa%22&dq=%22Rogelio+de+la+Rosa%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjbpuC4qo3LAhVW8mMKHZKZCBUQ6AEIHTAA

So this means his birth and death dates are, respectively, November 12, 1916 and November 26, 1986 (unless someone's been keeping the truth from us). Ebaillargeon82 (talk) 07:28, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

writing in Repulsion
Near the end of Repulsion, Carol “writes” on a window: that is, she moves a stylus (or maybe it’s only her finger) in the manner of writing, but makes no mark. Someone must know what she writes, but I haven’t found the right keywords! —Tamfang (talk) 09:58, 22 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I didn't find an answer, either. It's possible it wasn't specified in the script, although one site said she also mouthed the words:.


 * You might wonder how it could be undefined. Well, another director of such psychological thrillers, Hitchcock, often tossed in what he called a MacGuffin, a seemingly critical object to the plot, but which was rarely if ever seen.  The theory is that once you see and understand the mystery, you lose interest.  For example, when the little boy in The Shining says "redrum", it's an interesting mystery, but once you figure out it's "murder" spelled backwards, it loses that mystery. On the other hand, it he had said and written something indecipherable, we might still be discussing it today.  StuRat (talk) 02:05, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Like the contents of the suitcase in Pulp Fiction... (a yellow lightbulb and a battery pack) The Quixotic Potato (talk) 03:13, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

The two rugby codes, and injuries to players
How do Rugby league and Rugby union compare with each other when it comes to injuries to players, both in frequency, severity, and type / nature of injury? Have any academic comparisons ever been performed on the subject? For example, does one have a significantly higher rate of concussion than the other? (I'm happy to take non-academia answers too, though obviously I would prefer sources, if possible). Eliyohub (talk) 15:19, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * ObPersonal: As a schoolboy player of Union and a TV viewer of both, my impression is that League tends to have a lower level of serious injuries. I have always assumed that this was a deliberate feature of the rules (which result in no really vigorous scrumming, rucking or mauling), because League was originally more a pastime of Working-class men who could not afford to be injured and off work, whereas Union was a more upper-class pastime played by the Professions, who could. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 185.74.232.130 (talk) 15:40, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * See here. According to that article, the injury rate of Rugby League is about 40 injuries per 1000 playing hours.  For Rugby Union, it is about 178 injuries per 1000 playing hours.  So League is substantially safer, by a factor of greater than 4x.  -- Jayron 32 16:01, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Scrums in rugby union are the real deal, and when they collapse, proper back and neck injuries occur. League scrums are a handful of blokes leaning at 20 degrees to the vertical, the idea of that collapsing and causing injury is a joke.  There's also no real rucking/mauling analogy in league, so its inevitable that Jayron's stats back up the fact that league is much less dangerous. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:06, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Perhaps somebody could find a niche for this information in our Comparison of rugby league and rugby union article? (I know, I should do it myself; maybe later on...) Alansplodge (talk) 16:14, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Popularity of octuple meter
How common is octuple meter?? I would guess the most common time signature for octuple meter is in fact 4/4 time if played slowly so that the quarter note can be felt as 2 beats. Any corrections to this statement?? Georgia guy (talk) 23:55, 22 February 2016 (UTC)