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= March 29 =

Looking for birth and death dates for Elspeth Eric
Do any of you have access to a Wikipedia-credible resource that gives the dates of birth and death for entertainer Elspeth Eric? She was active in radio in the 1930s and 1940s. I have nearly finished creating an article about her (User:Teblick/Elspeth Eric), but I haven't found those two dates. One source said she was born "circa 1906," but otherwise I have struck out. I assume that she has died; since (assuming 1906 was her year of birth) she would now be 105 or 106 years old. Eddie Blick (talk) 14:32, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0258950/ 1907-199368.48.241.158 (talk) 15:00, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * As handy as IMDb is, it's not considered a reliable source for WP because it allows user-generated content. I tried searching for Elspeth Eric's grave, which would technically be a primary source (though presumably accurate at least), but wasn't able to find one with a quick search. A large number of grave stones have been photographed and uploaded to various sites, so I was mildly surprised to not find it. More dedicated searching might prove fruitful. Matt Deres (talk) 16:30, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Born in 1907, died in 1993 says http://www.jruuc.org/library. For more precise dates, the fan-site cbsrmt.com/actor-43-eric-elspeth.html says 09-15-1907 - 06-15-1993. The fansite rusc.com has the same birth date, but only mentions the year of her death, not the exact date. This page contains the date of birth, but it does not contain the date of death, so it says she is 108 years old. Jruuc.org seems to be a decent source. If you want the exact dates you can contact the people behind cbsrmt.com and ask where they got their information from (but it may have come from IMDB). The Quixotic Potato (talk) 17:06, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * The JRUUC site looks good. Not only does it have the years of birth and death, but it also gives her middle name, which I did not have. I appreciate the pointer to that page. In my early days of work on Wikipedia articles, I used IMDb often, but I soon learned from constructive criticism that it was not considered reliable (as noted in the comment above). Thanks for your help, everyone. I appreciate it. Eddie Blick (talk) 18:37, 29 March 2016 (UTC)