Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2016 October 1

= October 1 =

Are all movies supposed to have separate Wikipedia articles?
Are all (or most) movies supposed to have separate Wikipedia articles? (I Googled for things like  but did not find an answer) If not, where do we draw the line? For example, personally, I would think that maybe Birdemic: Shock and Terror and Birdemic 2: The Resurrection could be merged in a single article. If all or most movies merit separate articles, wouldn't it be a little like having an article for each Pokémon species, only in a much larger scale? If this was discussed before, please link to the discussions if it's not too much trouble. Thank you. Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:35, 1 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Absent more specific guidance, WP:GNG's standard is the pretty sensible requirement for "Significant coverage [which] addresses the topic directly and in detail". So if the two movies have significant coverage in reliable sources which addresses them individually, they'll probably both be sustained by AfD. It might very well be the case that a series of works might fail this standard individually, but pass it collectively, in which case you'd have a "Foobardemic film series" article, with the films as sections. It's pretty common for the books of a rather minor author to be elided into the author's article, where collectively there's enough coverage for the author and their works, but not individually. Looking specifically at the Birdemic articles, I'd guess (my word is far from law) is that the first one would pass AfD comfortably, the second probably would too. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 17:53, 1 October 2016 (UTC)


 * As to a film-specific test (like that Pokemon thing) which attempts to elucidate matters (GNG is still really the standard, but in some fields we've condensed the feeling of many AfD and other discussions down to guidelines like Notability (films) - I don't think a clear "when to merge" standard exists. You can always ask at the talk page of WikiProject Film (who may remember some specific examples) but, as is often the case at Wikipedia, things may well be played by ear. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 18:05, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Massive Attack's Be Thankful For What You've Got (song and video)
Who did the vocals on Massive Attack's Be Thankful For What You've  [sic]  Got (a 1991 cover of the 1972 song Be Thankful for What You Got). This page says it's one Tony Bryan. But who the hell is Tony Bryan? He (or she) is not even listed as an "associated act" at the Massive Attack article. Can anyone cross check with possibly more reliable sources (or the sleeve notes or whatever) and if possible expand a bit on who that Tony Bryan person is and what else they've done? Also who is the woman (actress?) who does the stripper in the song's seriously NSFW video? Thanks in advance. Basemetal 19:59, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Allmusic mentions collaborations on Johnny Yesno (Cabaret Voltaire), In Dub Confrontation (Lee "Scratch" Perry), and Nightclub (Andre Williams). And apparently he's on MA's "Any Love" too. ---Sluzzelin talk  20:50, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * So, if it's the same guy who plays sax with Andre Williams on Nightclub, according to that allmusic link, then I guess that would be this guy (from this site) which makes we wonder whether it's the same Tony Bryan from Hi-Fi and the Roadburners (see pic, same retro-outfit-type-thingy) ... ---Sluzzelin talk  21:03, 1 October 2016 (UTC)