Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2017 March 14

= March 14 =

Wondering where promotional/advertising materials from RKO Radio Pictures, Inc. would be
Where would I be able to see promotional/advertising materials from RKO Radio Pictures, Inc.? Me the blue lover (talk) 01:09, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * There's plenty available on YouTube.--Shantavira|feed me 09:40, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Is any kind of music that gets popular "pop music"?
What about classical music from the 19th century that is being used today over and over again and is extremely popular among the people? Is that classical or pop? What do people mean when they say "I like pop music"? 66.213.29.17 (talk) 16:43, 14 March 2017 (UTC)


 * In one word: No. "Pop" music is a definition all its own (mostly associated with "Rock" music from the 1950s on) and does not blanket or umbrella all categories of music once they become "popular" within their time period. Classical is classical, Country is Country, etc. Please see: Pop music for a better history of the term, artists and music. Thanks! PS To answer your question (re: What do people mean when they say "I like pop music"?) usually, someone is not referencing Beethoven's final quartets, or Chinese Opera; but more in keeping with Michael Jackson, Madonna, N'Sync, etc. Maineartists (talk) 16:53, 14 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I generally agree, but there is the Boston Pops, which seems to blur the distinction between popular music and classical. StuRat (talk) 02:33, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * They play what they consider to be "light" classics, such as the works of Leroy Anderson, as opposed to stuff like Das Lied von der Erde. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:25, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * That's a bit of a stretch, considering it's the name of the organization; and not a term generalizing a certain style of classical music. The "Pops" do not just play "light" classic music (i.e. The Boston Pops & Leroy Anderson); they have invited/spotlighted guests in the "Pop" genre for decades from all areas of the spectrum and featured their music, either at home or on tour: Billy Joel, The Four Seasons, Barry Manilow, Beach Boys, etc, etc (known for being "Pop"); and also have recorded (and presented) very serious classical recordings as well since their inception. To place them in a category of "Pop" simply because they play "Sleigh Ride" at Christmastime would be "Pop-ing" every Symphony Orchestra in existence. Maineartists (talk) 11:17, 15 March 2017 (UTC)


 * The term "pop music" was invented in the 1950s, at about the same time as rock and roll became popular, and comprises "generally short to medium-length songs written in a basic format (often the verse-chorus structure), as well as [having] the common use of repeated choruses, melodic tunes, and hooks." Popular classical music falls within the category of "popular music" - but that is usually not defined to have precisely the same meaning as "pop music".   Obviously there are overlaps - for instance, see Category:Popular songs based on classical works.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:47, 15 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Turning the "theme" of Rachmaninoff's 2nd Symphony in E-minor into the popular song "Never Gonna Fall In Love Again" (1976) does not in turn make his 2nd Symphony "Pop" music. Overall, if you were to ask someone on the street: "What is Pop music" and they were raised in the 1980s, they would reference a definitive era of music; thus Michael Jackson is the called "King of Pop".


 * Note that hit parade is a term used for popular music from a somewhat earlier period, dating to 1936. StuRat (talk) 15:37, 15 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Lynne Murphy, an American linguist living in Britain, said in 2009 that the label "pop music" has a "much broader application" in British English than it has in American English. No doubt there are other dimensions of variability. jnestorius(talk) 16:38, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * And yet, Itzhak Perlman never played Top of the Pops! I still think there are 2 different discussions going on here: "Pop" music and "Popular" music. Maineartists (talk) 20:27, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * One discussion, three terms: (1) "pop music", (2) "popular music", (3) "music that is popular". The question which started the discussion is whether (1) is the same as (3). The discussion should not imply that (1) has a fixed definition, even if we all agree that [almost?] nobody's definition of (1) matches (3). jnestorius(talk) 05:16, 16 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Compare light music, which is a classical form and is designed to be popular. --TammyMoet (talk) 15:10, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * And note that Eye Level (of the "light music" genre) was Number 1 in the UK Singles Chart for four weeks in September 1973 - I'm not sure if that makes it "pop" or not... Alansplodge (talk) 20:09, 16 March 2017 (UTC)


 * "Love is Blue" and "A Walk in the Black Forest" (I'm showing my age now) were among others that could reasonably have been placed in multiple genres that are normally considered mutually exclusive. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  21:59, 19 March 2017 (UTC)