Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2017 March 3

= March 3 =

How old virtual reality is
How old is virtual reality? DarthPalpatineSidious (talk) 21:49, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * According to Virtual reality, the concept goes back to at least 1935. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:51, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The first system accepted as VR in the modern sense was in 1968, but we'll let you read it for yourself. Alansplodge (talk) 01:13, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Virtual reality has been around since 1934, when the first full color motion picture was released. La Cucaracha was that motion picture. Me the blue lover (talk) 01:36, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * How do you figure? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:44, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The answer depends on the definition of Virtual Reality. If this definition is sufficiently loose, motion pictures, Gothic cathedrals or the artworks in Altamira are VR.  One measly step further and the human mind is a VR engine and “Real Reality” is something completely different and unknown (assuming you all live in the same VR as I do).
 * PS: The OP has been blocked.  One of the later posters is an assumed sockpuppet of the OP.   If anybody wants to hat this thread, so be it.  --Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM (talk) 20:28, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Carlos Hyde's actual birthdate
The NFL and multiple fantasy site sources show that Carlos Hyde's birthdate is 09/20/1990, however, Wikipedia shows a year of birth as 1991. Can you confirm the correct year? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.177.67.56 (talk) 23:06, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Pro-football-reference.com (the source for Wikipedia, and usually considered a highly reliable site for NFL stats) says 1991 and is the source for Wikipedia's date. NFL.com says 1990.  PFR is really a good site, but given that the NFL site has more resources behind it, I'm slightly more inclined to trust it.  But not enough to discount PFR.  It may be best for you to cite both websites, and indicate that his birthdate is in dispute.  -- Jayron 32 23:19, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * He was a high school senior in the fall of 2008. That would suggest he had just turned 18 rather than 17. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:04, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Really Baseball Bugs!? Maineartists (talk) 02:08, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * How so? I had just turned 17 before my senior year of HS, and had skipped no grades.  I did not turn 18 until I had started college (barely).  -- Jayron 32 02:29, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Then that would suggest 1991. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:05, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * It would suggest nothing. What would suggest something would be another, more reliable, source to break the deadlock.  -- Jayron 32 13:15, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * More reliable than NFL.com? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:12, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * ESPN says 1990, and their data source is stated to be Elias Sports Bureau. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:20, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Fox Sports says 1991. I'm not seeing a source. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:23, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Sports Illustrated says 1991. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:26, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Apparently Carlos can both run and hide (his birth year). Clarityfiend (talk) 06:31, 10 March 2017 (UTC)