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= November 3 =

Movie about a mental institution
Trying to find the name of a late 1970's or early 1980's movie about a mental institution. This doctor get killed by an ax from one of the patients & the head nurse takes over the care of the patients. We find out later, that the head nurse is actually a patient as well. That's all I can remember of the movie. GoodDay (talk) 05:05, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Category:Films set in psychiatric hospitals would be a good place for you to start your research. --Viennese Waltz 07:59, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Possibly The Forgotten (1973 film). Nanonic (talk) 07:59, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Nanonic, that's the movie. Haven't seen it in over 30 years. GoodDay (talk) 14:12, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * As a point of interest Archive.org claims the film has lapsed into public domain, and has a copy of the uncensored version of the film here.
 * Strange movie. ApLundell (talk) 16:13, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. GoodDay (talk) 16:26, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Ivan Locke
On the internet I read a review of the movie Locke, whose title character Ivan Locke is played by Tom Hardy (not related to me, as far as I know). The review said Ivan Locke's flaw was his belief that every problem can be solved by drawing a circle around it. I wrote to the reviewer with some questions, and got a reply that said he thought that metaphor was actually in the movie; it was not his own. I saw the movie before reading that review and I don't remember that.

Can anyone confirm or deny that the metaphor was there in the film and tell me the context, i.e. how did that bit of conversation go? Michael Hardy (talk) 21:33, 3 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I found a (almost certainly illegal) copy of the script with Google.
 * If this dubious script is accurate then the conversation appears when he's talking to his father.

Silence. Ivan drives on. A minute goes by. Then he can’t help himself and speaks softly to the rear view mirror... IVAN LOCKE You think this is all fate don’t you dad? Your dirty fucking finger prints all over me. It was bound to happen because of           the little seeds you planted. Well, let me educate you. Let me           teach you something. Even no matter what the situation is, you can make it good. Like with plaster and brick. You never knew that because you never fucking lifted a finger you lazy cunt but you can take a situation and draw a           circle around it and find a way to            work something out.
 * Hate to trust a document of unknown providence like that, and I won't link it here because it's a copyvio, but without watching the film again, that's probably the best you can get. ApLundell (talk) 22:06, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Is this Ivan Locke or his father who said this? Michael Hardy (talk) 01:05, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It is Ivan Locke, speaking to his father. I've expanded the quote to make that clear. ApLundell (talk) 05:05, 4 November 2017 (UTC)


 * PS: "providence" and "provenance" are two different words. Michael Hardy (talk) 01:05, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, I've never been to Rhode Island. So, it's unknown to me. ApLundell (talk) 05:05, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. Michael Hardy (talk) 04:36, 5 November 2017 (UTC)