Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2018 December 10

= December 10 =

What's the term for where the soloist stops singing and the orchestra play without him?
I am looking for the term for where the soloist stops singing and the orchestra play without him. What's the musical jargon term for it? 93.126.116.89 (talk) 14:03, 10 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Related: Bridge (music). Rojomoke (talk) 16:15, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd call it an instrumental break. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 07:33, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Removal of Professional Wrestling movesets and "5 Star Matches"
Perhaps this has been answered previously, but I was wondering why the movesets and lists of signatures moves that were on various Wikipedia pages of wrestlers had been removed as well as listings of their "5 star matches" awarded by journalist Dave Meltzer from the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. As a frequent viewer of these pages, it has been an inconvenience to have to search else where for this information.

For example, when you search John Cena, his moveset is missing. To be exact, it was removed in June of this year. Here is the exact edit. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Cena&diff=848045850&oldid=847557006

Professional wrestler Kenny Omega no longer has his "5 star matches" listed on his Wikipedia page either, and were removed in September of this year. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kenny_Omega&diff=861033488&oldid=860945781

I don't know when the changes were decided, but if I can speak for the rest of the wrestling community, can Wikipedia revert back to the way it was before? Thanks. -- Joe (11:51 AM), 10 December, 2018
 * The discussion on movesets is here. The discussion on removing Meltzer ratings is here. Short answer, your views do not represent those of the wrestling community, these issues have been discussed at length and consensus has been reached which you're not going to be able to go against without a fight. --Viennese Waltz 17:09, 10 December 2018 (UTC)


 * The following is a tweet from the founder and owner of Progress Wrestling Jim Smallman. There are key figures in the wrestling community that feel strongly about the change. Perhaps Wikipedia can hold a democratic vote? We would appreciate it, thank you. https://mobile.twitter.com/jimsmallman/status/1047123275074215936 -- Joe (1:16 PM), 10 December, 2018  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.208.238.123 (talk) 18:17, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately it's not about what the wrestling community thinks, it's about what the Wikipedia community thinks. Anyone from the wrestling community is free to discuss these matters at WikiProject Professional wrestling, but they probably won't get very far.  There has already been a democratic vote – Wikipedia works by consensus, and consensus has been reached on both matters against their inclusion. --Viennese Waltz 08:16, 11 December 2018 (UTC)