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= December 27 =

Narrative sequence of the Hobbit and LotR
What is the correct chronological sequence of the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings films? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:37, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Fairly sure it's the same as the books i.e. the Hobbit films occured about 75-80 years before the Lord of the Rings films (discounting the flashbacks etc). Nil Einne (talk) 11:16, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that makes sense, the opening scene of LotR is Bilbo Baggins' 111th birthday. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:16, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Check the opening narration for LOTR. That takes place first. At one point, it mentions that Gollum had the ring in his cave, and that the ring abandoned Gollum, to be found by a hobbit, Bilbo. That's the point where "The Hobbit" is located in the timeline. You saw the meeting of Bilbo and Gollum in full detail in the first Hobbit film, and how Bilbo got to be there and his eventual return home. Cambalachero (talk) 12:40, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


 * The films aren't very explicit about it, but the books (specifically appendix B) are. They are consistent, except for the fact that in the film Pippin doesn't seem to age in the 17 years between the Long Expected Party (when he should have been 11 years old) and the Quest. This time interval is not completely skipped, as at the end of the film it is stated that Bilbo is 130 years old. The Hobbit is set in Shire Reckoning 1341 (returning home in 1342), the Party in 1401, the Quest begins in 1418, return home in 1419 and they leave from the Grey Havens in 1421. I think the first of the Hobbit films begins with a scene just before the Party and then says something like "60 years before". PiusImpavidus (talk) 10:14, 28 December 2018 (UTC)