Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2018 October 29

= October 29 =

Non-American Football
What does the word 'United' designate in football team names Manchester United? † dismas †|(talk) 01:10, 29 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Rather than Non-American Football, I'm guessing you mean soccer. There are lots of different football codes, and it seems it's only soccer that's obsessed with the word. This is a question I have pondered and asked in many places and on several occasions. Soccer fans don't actually seem to know. The article Manchester United tells us it was introduced at a time the club chose to change its name for legal/financial/image reasons. My impression is that other clubs simply copied the idea because they think it sounds better and cooler if they use part of the name of a successful club. It rarely has anything to do with a club being a unification of other clubs, i.e. united. I have seen brand new clubs choose to use the word. HiLo48 (talk) 01:53, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Sheffield United Football Club was founded as an offshoot of Sheffield United Cricket Club - which was formed by the merger of several teams, and is said to be the oldest sporting club using the word United in its name. Newcastle United was formed by the merger of two clubs, as was Rotherham United - there may be other examples if you search far enough down the league tables. Wymspen (talk) 11:01, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Dead Can Dance : Avatar lyrics
This track is described as instrumental anywhere I looked to the lyrics. However, when listening to it it's quite obvious that there are lyrics. Can anyone point me to the actual lyrics? אילן שמעוני (talk) 06:27, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I have been a Dead Can Dance fan for over 30 years. Lisa Gerrard is well known for singing in a form of glossolalia (our article on her calls it idioglossia). As quoted in the article, she says "I sing in the language of the Heart. It's an invented language that I've had for a very long time. I believe I started singing in it when I was about 12. Roughly that time. And I believed that I was speaking to God when I sang in that language." As such, it is not possible to write down or transcribe the lyrics.  --Viennese Waltz 07:26, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has an article titled Non-lexical vocables in music which covers such things as Scat singing in Jazz and other types of "using the voice to sing music without meaningful words". I'm reminded as well of Clare Torry's vocals on the song "Great Gig in the Sky", which is clearly singing but lacks anything remotely resembling a word; the best one could do is create lines of "wah" and "ooh"s if you were to "write" the lyrics.  -- Jayron 32 17:54, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Interesting, but I don't see what it has to do with the question. Lisa Gerrard is not singing in non-lexical vocables. --Viennese Waltz 19:23, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, she sounds to me more like a very slowed down version of Kevin, Stuart, or Bob.--Shantavira|feed me 08:55, 30 October 2018 (UTC)