Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2018 October 4

= October 4 =

Genre numbers
When I assign or change genre on MP3 files to a certain ones that have numbers, I see that a song opened on ID3 tag editor and on MP3 player the genre is shown as numbers, but on file explorer and media player it is spelled out. So why do genres is shown as numbers on tag editor and MP3 player and what's the purpose of having genre numbers, like (17) for rock and (9) for metal? When I edit genre to even the one that have genre numbers using ID3 tag editor and spell it out, it save it like that and spelled out genre is shown on MP3 player, but is there's a way to not automatically convert the genre to a number upon changing it on WMP or file explorer? Planet Star  00:50, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * What specific MP3 player? Make/model, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.173.193 (talk) 15:43, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Sansa. Planet  Star  22:32, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Ancient Paranormal Reports
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen

I need some ancient (maybe from between 6000 BC - 2000 AD) reports of supposedly paranormal phenomena (ghost sightings, haunting events, poltergeist activities and discussions with the dead etc.). I do remember that Pliny the Younger wrote about a ghost haunting which took place in Athens, and there apparently are some early medieval accounts about the subject. I would be thankful for an internet list or Thank you

With kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1205:505D:1BB0:BC3D:1D42:FC60:2208 (talk) 13:26, 4 October 2018 (UTC) compilation in book form. The written accounts of eyewitnesses would be the most valuable, but I do realize the problem of large scale illiteracy which was commmon in the ancient world.


 * Do you mean 6000 BC to 2000 BC? You can't possibly think that 2000 AD is "ancient"? Be aware that Herodotus, who is known as the father of history was writing 1,500 years more recently than 2,000 BC (give or take) and his work is still riddled with content that modern scholars regard as dubious, myth or downright fiction, so you'l hit problems of authority. Pliny the Younger lived in the modern era, another 500 years on. You're looking for Book 7, letter 27 of his famous letters. Note that he didn't witness the event he writes about, unlike the eruption of Vesuvius, which he watched from a safe distance (being a scholarly young man and all that). The hair cutting story he reports has a remarkable parallel in the 21st century. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 13:45, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Incidentally, you'll get better responses from this if you cut and paste this onto WP:RD/H. Please don't leave this here if you do that. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:22, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Gentlemen, I do beg your pardon for my limited knowledge of the English language. The term "ancient" in my mother tongue Rumantsch Grischun implies that something is simply old (it does not specify whether something is 3000 or 25 years old), the English term is apparently closer to the German term "antik" ("from antiquity"). I am looking for accounts of paranormal phenomena, even modern ones could prove to be quite valuable.--85.5.209.187 (talk) 15:20, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I saw some weird shit in the 60s. Didn't we all? Category:Paranormal

I was not alive in the 1960s. What exactly do you mean?--2A02:1205:505D:1BB0:ED89:80FC:7CD1:5281 (talk) 16:05, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * That "weird shit" comment was (presumably) a joke about all the drug taking in the '60s and the resulting hallucinations. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:34, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The OP might like to investigate issues of the magazine Fortean Times, perhaps in a library collection: its explicit purpose is to collate and present reports of paranormal and other strange phenomena (although it does not take an editorial position on their veracity and readily presents sceptical analyses), and has a regular column focussing on accounts from classical antiquity. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.217.102.65 (talk) 16:06, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Saint Columba supposedly encountered the Loch Ness Monster.Adam Bishop (talk) 09:50, 5 October 2018 (UTC)


 * A few books that you might find of interest: Classical antiquity—Haunted Greece and Rome: Ghost Stories from Classical Antiquity and Phlegon of Tralles' Book of Marvels. Middle Ages—Medieval Ghost Stories: An Anthology of Miracles, Marvels and Prodigies.


 * This seems to be a good start for your research. If you tweak the search terms, you can likely find even more.  -- Jayron 32 22:48, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

The Wizard of Oz Copyright Situation
Good Day

I was wondering if the book "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" by L. Frank Baum from 1900 is still copyright protected, or if it has become open source.

Thank you for your answers

With kind regards--85.5.209.187 (talk) 13:37, 4 October 2018 (UTC)


 * It probably depends on your jurisdiction. As far as I know, anything first published before 1923 is out of copyright in the United States. The Wonderful Wizard of Oz was first published in 1900, so it's out of copyright in the US. But be careful - the film The Wizard of Oz was released in 1939, so anything particular to the film, for example the songs or the appearance of the characters, are probably still in copyright. In the European Union, copyright lasts 70 years after the death of the author. L. Frank Baum died in 1919, 99 years ago, so all his works are out of copyright in the EU. Same caveat about elements that are particular to the film though. Please note, I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. --Nicknack009 (talk) 15:53, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * And the year we need for the film to be in the public domain is 2034 in the United States, is this right?? Georgia guy (talk) 21:10, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

I live in Switzerland, which is not part of the European Union. We tend to have rather strange copyright laws here.--2A02:1205:505D:1BB0:ED89:80FC:7CD1:5281 (talk) 16:06, 4 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia has a useful article: List of countries' copyright lengths. It says in Switzerland, copyright lasts 70 years after the death of the author, and before the law was changed in 1993 it was 50 years after the death of the author. Frank Baum's work went into the public domain in Switzerland in 1969. --Nicknack009 (talk) 19:52, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Apparently, Switzerland is not that strange when it comes to copyright. According to our List of parties to international copyright agreements, Switzerland is one of the countries which have joined the Berne Convention (1886), the Universal Copyright Convention (1952), the TRIPS Agreement (1995), and the WIPO Copyright Treaty (1996). Dimadick (talk) 12:39, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you very much!--2A02:1205:505D:1BB0:C467:6833:6A8E:6C13 (talk) 19:08, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Identify yodel
Please tell me the source of this tune, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZzkjx8ckAU At 10:48 (BTW, cannot link to YouTube's 'copy link at current timestamp - disallowed link, big red letters, "Your edit was not saved because it contains a new external link to a site registered on Wikipedia's blacklist. " - seems a bit.. oh well. Thx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.173.193 (talk) 14:45, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Download the app Soundhound or it's biggest rival Shazam and use the app to identify the song. Danstarr69 (talk) 23:30, 4 October 2018 (UTC)


 * There is nothing stopping you linking to the exact time. You simply can't link to the URL shortened version of the URL. Just add the time to the end after &t=. This is an link to the time at 10:48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZzkjx8ckAU&t=648 . You can either calculate the time or get it from the shortened URL. Nil Einne (talk) 07:04, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 * You don't have to calculate the seconds. Adding "t=10m48s" works as well. --Viennese Waltz 07:27, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks you're right. I thought there was something odd when it came up like above since I didn't remember having to calculate before. I believe the auto link used to provide links in the m/s format but didn't when I tried just now. Nil Einne (talk) 08:04, 5 October 2018 (UTC)