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= August 20 =

Which "Over My Head" song could it be?
In 1995, the National Association for Music Education (then known as the Music Educators National Conference) published a list of songs that "every American should know". (See under Volume 1.) The list was relatively heavy on folk songs and patriotic songs and light on commercially oriented popular music.

However, I haven't even been able to figure out what song they were referring to when they listed "Over My Head". We have a list of 21 songs by that title, but none of them look like obvious choices to be on a list with "Amazing Grace", "Home on the Range", and "Oh! Susanna", not to mention that many of them were written after the list was published in 1995.

Can anyone figure out what song titled "Over My Head" Is supposedly one that every American should know? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:09, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Never heard of it. Is there a "contact us" option on the NAFME page? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:51, 20 August 2019 (UTC)


 * My guess: Over My Head (Fleetwood Mac song). Kinda depends on what "should know" means.  If it means "should know" because they've heard it so often (by 1995) that most knew it by heart, then maybe so. I suspect many of the songs on that list are covers of that one.  If it means "should know" because it is somehow important historically or culturally, then not so much. 2606:A000:1126:28D:A5FF:F393:289D:FC29 (talk) 06:31, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Unlikely to be the Fleetwood Mac song, as it was only a very minor hit of no historial significance. There's a hymn of that name, but again it looks to be only very sparsely known and a recent addition to hymn books. The name does stick out in that list of songs that are all extremely well known. --Xuxl (talk) 11:55, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I would hardly call it "of no significance", it was their first hit single under their most famous lineup (J. McVie, C. McVie, M. Fleetwood, L. Buckingham, S. Nicks). They would later have bigger hit songs, but it was historically important.  However, I do agree that if I were picking a historically important Fleetwood Mac song, there are better known ones, especially for high school choirs to sing, given that this is what the book was developed for.  -- Jayron 32 12:18, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Here is one copy of the book (representative; not recommending the seller) and there is also some accompanying CDs with it. Perhaps a local library has it, OR perhaps you can find an online scan of it. -- Jayron 32 12:13, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * If any of the songs on the list at Over My Head are covers of the Fleetwood Mac song (as suggested by 2606), they should not have separate entries on the disambiguation page; rather, they should be mentioned at Over My Head (Fleetwood Mac song). --Metropolitan90 (talk) 12:33, 20 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I strongly suspect this is an old spiritual, "Over My Head", of which there are several choral versions on YouTube (such as this and this) and which is described here as a "classic African-American spiritual offering spiritual reassurance." It seems from that brief reference that it is the basis of the gospel song "Up Above My Head".   Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:16, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestions. As Jayron suggests, the best way to identify the song would be to track down the compilation book published by NAfME. I suspect that Ghmyrtle's suggestion of the spiritual is the best candidate so far. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 12:30, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, at least by volume 2 they figured out that including the song-writers was probably a good idea. Matt Deres (talk) 12:52, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The MENC list refers to an old African-American spiritual. You can find "Over My Head" as hymn #2148 in "The Faith We Sing" published in 2000, which is a supplement to The United Methodist Hymnal published in 1989.  It gives the tune name as "Music In The Air" and credits the musical arrangement to John Bell at the Iona Community of Scotland.  A bit more information can be found here.--Thomprod (talk) 17:31, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

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