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White Fang
How was it possible to film movies based on White Fang such that no dogs were harmed in the making thereof? In particular, how was it possible to film the scene of the last fight between White Fang and the bulldog, where (at least according to the book) they were literally ripping each other to shreds? 2601:646:8A00:A0B3:C119:5F8:1314:9E22 (talk) 03:36, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * How do you know that no dogs were harmed? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:44, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * In the world of CGI scenes can be filmed where no live animals are involved. Films like Amores perros and TV series like Game of Thrones have scenes of brutality without harming the animals involved. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 03:47, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * True, but most of these films were made before CGI was invented (some as far back as the early 70s). 2601:646:8A00:A0B3:C119:5F8:1314:9E22 (talk) 03:49, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Your question did not address older films. Prior to the 1970's (and after depending on the country that the film was made in) there are films where the action could cause harm. Horses being felled by trip wires happened quite often. As associations like the SPCA began to protest any harming of animals in making films new techniques were developed to avoid harm to animals. Highly trained animals, camera angles and editing allow for scenes that look brutal but do not harm those involved. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 03:56, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes. For example, this source discusses how many of the animal scenes in White Fang (1991 film) were filmed. Probably the scene you refer to most involves this:  This was a Disney film anyway so I'm doubtful it was extremely graphically violent.  Some of the reviews here [//letterboxd.com/film/white-fang/] make me think that White Fang (1973 film) was fairly graphic despite the target audience also being children  But I gather from these discussions [//www.imdb.com/title/tt0069536/] [//www.alternateending.com/2018/08/white-fang-1973.html] that still much of the violence is maybe not that great fakery  One thing perhaps worth considering is filming a bear genuinely fighting a dog probably involved various challenges in itself. Especially if the dog is supposed to barely win the fight. (Or whatever happened.) But as I don't know much about Italian law and norms at the time, and the director's views, and haven't seen the movie, it's not clear to mere if some scenes involved real harm to the animals involved. (The elk scene for example.)  Nil Einne (talk) 13:48, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! So even without CGI, there were ways to do it without having them fight for real (it just took a lot of effort!)  2601:646:8A00:A0B3:C119:5F8:1314:9E22 (talk) 02:22, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Find a movie
I recall watching movie maybe 25 years ago about a woman and her mother who find that her husband is cheating on her. She decides to poison him by putting pills in his spaghetti. But he just won't die. He later realises that she is trying to kill him, and if I recall correctly he begs for forgiveness. The movie had an Italian / American feel. I thought this stared Julia Roberts and was called mystic Pizza, I have been corrected. I can recall the face of the actor who played the husband but cant recall his name. I would like to see the movie again but cant remember the title. Any help would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.131.40.58 (talk) 17:58, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I Love You to Death. Nanonic (talk) 18:22, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

KEVIN LINE!!! You're a star. Thanks so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.131.40.58 (talk) 18:27, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Or Kevin KLINE. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:19, 8 March 2019 (UTC)