Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2019 September 26

= September 26 =

up-and-coming actress
What else can anyone tell me about Grace Van Dien? (I know she's a daughter of Casper Van Dien. She played the daughter of Michaela McManus on the NBC TV show The Village.) Shouldn't an article about her be created?142.255.69.73 (talk) 11:55, 26 September 2019 (UTC)


 * IMDb has lots of info, but is also full of ads: . She's related to "everybody whose anybody": . Feel free to create an article in Wikipedia. Note that her full name is Caroline Grace Van Dien, but she seems to have dropped her original first name. SinisterLefty (talk) 12:32, 26 September 2019 (UTC)


 * (ec)You could ask at the article creation request page. Or, you could register an account and create the article yourself. Either way, you'll need proper sourcing to prove notability. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:29, 26 September 2019 (UTC)


 * I should expect that the IMDb entry would do that. SinisterLefty (talk) 02:39, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not so sure that merely having an IMDB entry automatically confers notability. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:54, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Just having an entry, no, but having 19 on-screen credits so far (51 counting episodes separately), and 3 more in production, and as a bonus being related to all sorts of famous people on the bio page, is a different story. SinisterLefty (talk) 17:22, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Being related to someone famous doesn't confer notability either. But the OP could always request the article's creation, and see where things go from there. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:53, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Maybe it shouldn't, but in the real world, it does. Why else would we have a Rosemary Kennedy article ? SinisterLefty (talk) 20:36, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Maybe because of being a Kennedy AND having had a botched brain operation. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:20, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Lot's of people had bad lobotomies. She's only notable because of who she's related to. SinisterLefty (talk) 22:31, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Does she have an IMDB entry? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:10, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Of course. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:17, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Having an imdb-entry confers no WP:N. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:06, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed. My wife has an IMDB entry.  There's no way she passes WP:42.  It doesn't mean shit.  -- Jayron 32 11:53, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Likewise my father-in-law. Hey, let's start Category:Wikipedians related to someone listed in IMDb. —Tamfang (talk) 17:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * How about this: My younger son's godmother's late ex-husband's sister married Pierre Cardin's second cousin.  There must be a category for that.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:47, 3 October 2019 (UTC)