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= July 4 =

Any possible height estimate of Black Fortress
In the 1983 movie Krull, was there any given estimated size (by individual observation, production notes, etc) of the Black Fortress when it is flying around as a space ship, or at least when its planted on the surface? --72.234.12.37 (talk) 16:12, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Electric guitar playing sound
In the chorus of the Alice in Chains song "Rain When I Die" and this man's cover of Matchbox 20's "Bent", there is a distinct playing sound that I've never been able to properly describe, rather warm and wistful harmonics. The closest I've managed to come to describing for myself is "nostalgia chimes". Is there any proper term or description for this type of electric guitar sound? And how would these notes be produced? I imagine an amp is used, but my understanding of electric guitars is bad (Hell I don't know the term for the sound created by sliding one's hand across the neck's length) and I always assumed most amps, especially of the pedal variety, are used to either exaggerate certain notes or distort the guitar's sound when activated or tuned to do so, otherwise they just feed the guitar's sound though a speaker. --72.234.12.37 (talk) 16:31, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Basically, a chorus effect from an effects pedal (not an amp in itself, but closely connected) or possibly from a module built into the amp itself. Specifically, don't ask me which amp or pedal these are, though there should at least be a list in Dirt's liner notes to narrow that sound down. A pick slide is likely what you mean by the hand slide. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:47, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Per the Jerry Cantrell article, he uses a Boss CE-3 and/or CH-1. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:03, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Dirt uses multiple effect on his pedal, if you would provide us with a time stamp on when he starts to use the effect to which you refer, we may be able to narrow down the exact effect chosen. He uses a "wah-wah" at times as well as "standard metal distortion" and "reverb heavy" effects.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.76.127 (talk) 09:27, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I did say during the chorus of Rain When I Die, so the timestamps would be 01:50, 02:44, and 04:35, those dreamlike wistful-sounding notes I've described as "nostalgia chimes". InedibleHulk already managed to identify them as chorus effects which I guess may count as a form of heavy reverb.
 * I wanted to say to him though that the pick slide was not the sound I had in mind initially when I typed about the hand-sliding sound; I thought more of a "rolling" sound than a "grinding" sound, as can be heard at 00:46, 01:34, and 02:12 from Kutless's "To Know That You're Alive", at the end of Breaking Benjamin's "Polyamorous", this cover of Sevendust's "Trust" at 01:37 and 04:06, or in this man's cover of ERRA's The Hypnotist at 03:12. But hey, now I at least know the term for that grinding note trick that Paradise Lost and Gojira like to do a lot of! --72.234.12.37 (talk) 13:48, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * With your fret hand, it's just "sliding" (this is downward, perhaps counterintuitively). As an intro or lead-in, could say "slide-in" (or "power slide-in" given a power chord). Kutless may have used studio magic after the fact, sounds a bit unnatural. "Innervision" by System of a Down opens with a humdinger of a growl, in my opinion. Might be some whammy bar involved there, though. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:12, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * John Playford called a descending slide a "double backfall", that's a pretty sweet bleak metal term, at least by his century's standards of darkness. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:40, 9 July 2020 (UTC)