Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2020 November 14

= November 14 =

Harmonic and melodic major scales
The harmonic minor scale was named for its appropriateness for harmonies. Its 7th note is a chromatic semitone higher than that of the natural minor and this creates a dominant 7th chord on the 5th note, making it appropriate for harmonies.

The melodic minor scale was name because it was more appropriate for melodies; it avoids the awkward-sounding augmented 2nd between the 6th and 7th notes.

But what about the harmonic and melodic major scales?? The familiar major scale (all white keys from C to C) is appropriate for harmonies and melodies alike, so how do scales get these names?? Georgia guy (talk) 00:00, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * A reasonable explanation for the term harmonic major scale is its similarity to the harmonic minor scale. It can be obtained from the harmonic minor scale by raising the third degree by one semitone, turning the tonic triad chord from minor (i) to major (I). I think the term melodic major scale is mostly used to distinguish it from the harmonic major scale when these are being discussed in combination; otherwise, major scale always means the natural ("melodic") one. The epithet melodic is then likely copied from the corresponding disambiguation for the minor scales. --Lambiam 13:06, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * At this point, also, is why the "modes" system becomes more useful. Remembering the intricacies of what "melodic" and "harmonic" and "natural" mean in the context of a scale can be a bit less "systematic" than remembering which degree a mode begins on.  As long as you know the major scale, and which degree to start on, you can work out the scales for anything.  -- Jayron 32 12:56, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Actress not in Wikipedia
I was watching TV and saw one of my favorite actresses from the show ‘Dark Shadows’, Frances Helm. I was surprised that she has no entry in Wikipedia and only a brief entry in the Internet Movie Database. Can any TV historians out there create a page for her on Wikipedia?

2601:240:C800:2090:C919:17AC:4D43:6D9 (talk) 05:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * If she only has a "brief" IMDB entry, she may not be notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Specifically, in the article Notability (people), look at the section on Entertainers.


 * That said, her IMDB credit list isn't all that brief... --174.95.161.129 (talk) 07:04, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Looks like a good opportunity for someone to write an article. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:47, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * A quick GBS scan did not turn up enough material ("in-depth coverage") for a full-fledged article. --Lambiam 11:26, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It might be interesting to see how many articles include "Frances Helm". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:27, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Nine. --107.15.157.44 (talk) 22:51, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * She doesn't come anywhere close to satisfying WP:NACTOR: no significant roles. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:46, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe she does merit an article: Variety Obit: Frances Helm. I mean, come one: Cynthia Crane, this one went up for AfD and passed. This guy Carlos Rafael Rivera is really only on here for Godless and The Queen's Gambit. And let's not forget: Sue Keller. She also passed AfD. I'll do Helm's. I need a new article. Maineartists (talk) 13:12, 17 November 2020 (UTC)