Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2020 October 7

= October 7 =

Black and Orange
... were they the or the Orange and Black? Sources seem to be split about fifty-fifty. Somebody who has some old cigarette cards might have a good answer. One redirects to the other, and that does make sense (WP:AND being irrelevant here). I've done some online research, but really this needs a Pennsylvanian or at least someone with half a clue about American Football to chime in. Originally at WP:RFD but now at Talk:Clifton Heights Orange & Black... WP:CONCISE would suggest to cut "Clifton Heights". 84.236.27.182 (talk) 05:07, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * There may not really be an answer to this. Sports team names in the early 20th century were a lot less "official" than they are now. For example, the Brooklyn Dodgers (now the Los Angeles Dodgers) were officially the Brooklyn Base Ball Club for decades, and were known by many different nicknames. "Dodgers" did not become the standard until 1933 and I'm not sure at what point it became truly official. --Khajidha (talk) 11:41, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * And indeed to this day there are people who refer to the part of the name like "Dodgers" as the "nickname" of the team. Here's just one example. To my mind, "Canadiens" should only be called the team's "name", while "Habs" is their nickname. --174.89.48.182 (talk) 22:28, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The word "Dodgers" has become part of their corporate identity. It may vary with other teams. The Canadiens were once called "Club de Hockey Canadien", hence the "C H C" of their logo. It appears that "Montreal Canadiens" is their corporate name now. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:52, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Xbox Series X games
I've been out of touch with video games, and I'm having trouble understanding how upcoming Xbox games will be packaged and shelved in stores. Most upcoming titles (like Assassin's Creed Valhalla) are advertised to work with Xbox One and Xbox Series X (link). All the cover art I see online has a green stripe at the top that simply says "Xbox". Are the games going to look like that when they hit stores, or is there going to be a new sort of packaging once the Series X has been released? Will stores have a separate section for Xbox Series X games, or will they continue to group this stuff with Xbox One titles? Thanks! Zagal e jo^^^ 23:19, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello! I did a quick look into the box packaging of new games.  From what I gathered, nothing is actually final, I'm suggesting.  Images of the art have come from leaks, and its to interpretation on whether or not you believe it.  It seems to come from a verifiable source, however, an employee who got access to it and blew it early, but who knows?  That's all the evidence we have, Microsoft is being pretty secretive. Nothing else is known about displays in stores.


 * My verdict: just wait until something comes out from Microsoft themselves, which is verifiable.
 * But I'm a Nintendo guy. Maybe someone else will come with more info.  Hope this helped!  Le Panini (talk) 16:56, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * New packaging for the Series X is very likely, actually I'm fairly certain it will happen. Of course we won't know what it looks like yet until the console is actually released to retail, but Microsoft has always done different labelling for Xbox games usually depending on what model of Xbox was in production at the time of the game's release, to visually show what console model the disc is meant to be read by. They've done different cover markings for Xbox One games (the top green stripe you mentioned) to differentiate them from Xbox 360 released games, and before that with the original Xbox's games. The Playstation series does the same thing. Compare the following covers:
 * Original Xbox -
 * Xbox 360 -
 * Xbox One -


 * And yes, stores will eventually have to dedicate a section for Xbox Series X games once a good number of them have come out; the same thing happened with the Xbox One and Playstation 4 (I remember 7 years back when the Xbox One just came out, a few months later there was just a little booth in the middle of the local videogame store that held only five games: Dead Rising, Forza, Ryse: Son of Rome, Assassin's Creed IV, and Battlefield 4).
 * Finally, when you said "Most upcoming titles are advertised to work with Xbox One and Xbox Series X.", what you are speaking of is called "backwards-compatibility" which is something Microsoft is recently trying to do with Xbox One, but is only able to do so with a meagre selection of games. In simple terms, backwards-compatibility is the ability for a console to be able to play game releases originally meant for a predecessor of the same line in spite of differences in hardware. For example, the PlayStation 3 was able to work games that were released for the Playstations 1 and 2. Allegedly this capability will be fully realised with the Series X being able to read and play any Xbox One game disc. --72.234.12.37 (talk) 17:56, 12 October 2020 (UTC)