Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2021 May 28

= May 28 =

City of Saw
Hi! Can somebody say me what city does saw movies take place in? Thanks! -- 80.30.179.192
 * What are you talking about? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:58, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * They're talking about Saw (2004 film) and sequels, rather obviously. According to this fan wiki the city is fictional. --Wrongfilter (talk) 06:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * In Universe, the city is a generic city, and has no connection to a real city. In terms of the real world, the first film was shot in Los Angeles and Lacy Street Studios, and the rest, all of them from Saw II through Spiral were filmed in Toronto, mostly at Cinespace Film Studios.  -- Jayron 32 12:42, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Olympia
Hi everyone! 1In ancient Greece, did the city-state of Olympia have an army and a kingdom of its own or was it dependent on some other kingdom? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.83.86.131 (talk) 16:29, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Outside of the Kingdom of Macedon, in ancient Greece just about everything were autonomous city states that sometimes organized themselves into leagues, often under the domination of some of the more powerful city states, but constitutionally each city state was its own independent polity. This is largely a symptom of Greek geography; Ancient Greece is basically a bunch of mountainous peninsulas and islands around the Aegean sea, and there was no mechanism for the building of large kingdoms.  You had a city state, which controlled a small patch of farmable hinterland, and the terrain discouraged the creation of anything larger than that.  See Polis for a description of how Greek city states were generally organized.  Even Macedon is probably best thought of as not really all that Greek, though it became hellenized and the people there spoke Greek or a closely related language, being a hereditary, land-based kingdom, kinda fails the basic definition of Ancient Greekness of the time, whereby the city-state organization, the polis, was baked into the Greek culture, it is almost the defining characteristic of what Ancient Greece was.  -- Jayron 32 16:43, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * With regard to Olympia, Greece specifically, the city had a Prytaneion according to our article. The Prytaneion was the seat of government of a polis, so the existence of one in a settlement usually indicates that it was a polis.  -- Jayron 32 16:54, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Very interesting! I will take a look to the page of Polis for a better learning. Thanks User:Jayron32 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.83.86.131 (talk) 17:03, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Olympia was in Ancient Elis and Elis (city) appears to have been in control of the region. The second sentence in Prytaneion indicates that the one in Olympia was there for the games. --Wrongfilter (talk) 17:11, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Correct, but the self-same article on Prytaneion indicates that the Prytaneion of Olympia also had civic functions. It is likely that Olympia had some autonomy, and was at least constitutionally a polis in its own right, but Ancient Elis also notes that it was under the domination of the polis of Elis.  Meaning that while Olympia had some autonomy, it was under the hegemony of the dominant Polis of its region.  This sort of arrangement would have been fairly common.  -- Jayron 32 18:27, 28 May 2021 (UTC)