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= November 4 =

Senior professional Baseball Association
Where can i find the stats and schedule for the 1989 Senior Professional Baseball Association?

,., LEON — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:FF04:1900:9C3A:2F30:4121:65EF (talk) 18:34, 4 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Baseball-Reference.com has a page for the league. Clicking on each team gets you some stats for the players for that season: hitting and pitching. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:18, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Non-musicians/artists/athletes in the 27 Club
The 27 Club was named for musicians and is usually restricted to them; but often also other artists are included (Jean-Michel Basquiat, Anton Yelchin...), and a minority of 27 Club lists also adds star athletes (Reggie Lewis, Pat Tillman...). As of now, I have seen only one exception not belonging to either of those groups: TV personality Jade Goody, listed in the 27 Club for example here in The Scotsman. Are there any other persons who died at the age of 27, are listed in the 27 Club by any somewhat notable source, and are not artists or athletes? --KnightMove (talk) 22:11, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * There is no bouncer at the door of the 27 Club. No group, person, institution, etc.  maintains any rules or has any official say over who "qualifies" for it.  It's simply a cultural meme that started in the late 60s and early 70s over the closely-spaced deaths of several 27-year-old musicians, primarily Jimi Hendrix, Janice Joplin, and Jim Morrison.  Three people is not statistically significant, but the human brain's compulsion to find patterns overrides its ability to understand basic statistics, so the idea stuck.  Just about any famous person that dies at 27 ends up bringing the meme back up, but there is no particular process to decide who, among famously dead 27 year-olds, is really "in" the club.  It's not difficult to find references associating any number of non-musicians mentioned as members of it.  -- Jayron 32 12:33, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * You are right, but I have browsed through many lists now, and finding non-artists-non-athletes included seems to be a lot harder. A second example I have found is Benjamin Keough. --KnightMove (talk) 18:42, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Jim Morrison's long-time partner Pamela Courson is classified here as a bonafide member of the 27 Club. She had taken art classes but was doing some modelling work and is not known as an artist or athlete. --Lambiam 13:35, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --KnightMove (talk) 21:27, 6 November 2021 (UTC)