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= July 4 =

"Dukes" and "MacGyver" references in "NCIS"
Of course, I'm well-aware the 'Heartland' episode of NCIS (TV series) had a reference to The Dukes of Hazzard (TV series). But one other episode of the former had a reference to the latter. Which one was it? And which episode of the former had a reference to MacGyver (2016 TV series)? Anyone know?2603:7000:8100:F444:412:4DDE:E611:E730 (talk) 01:58, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Name of a movie set in premodern England
Hello, I am trying to find the name of a particular film (which is likely based on a book), but all I have to go on is a collection of half-remembered tidbits. I have not seen this movie in quite a while. So, here are some things that potentially could help identify it. However, I cannot guarantee that all of them are even right; I could be confusing multiple movies in my mind.


 * The film is pretty old. It may have been produced in the middle decades of the twentieth century (roughly 30s to 60s), but that is just a guess. It had color and sound IIRC, but IDK if the color was added later.
 * The movie is set in premodern England, maybe around the 1500s or 1600s, but again this is just a guess.
 * It is an adventure / swashbuckling movie that follows one main character, starting from his youth in a small village, to when he leaves the village (perhaps being expelled from it, or out of a desire for adventure) and explores the outside world. The title of the movie might include the name of the main character.
 * The main character might be a bastard child, or one of his parents might die early on (perhaps by falling off a horse?). He might end up joining the army and then deserting. There is a character who is like the mayor or noble lord of the village, who sort of serves as an antagonist IIRC. During the youth part in the village, I think there is a girl who serves as the love interest.
 * Eventually, he finds his way to a more built-up town and more shenanigans ensue, but I don't really remember much from the later part of the movie.
 * The main character sort of had the vibe of being an outlaw or outcast, but not in the sense of being a bad person (compare Robin Hood).

It's surprisingly hard to track this down. Maybe I just hallucinated this movie, heh. 98.170.164.88 (talk) 02:29, 4 July 2022 (UTC)


 * One I can think of is the Fighting Prince of Donegal (1966), which I last saw myself well over forty years ago.Chris the Russian Christopher Lilly  03:12, 4 July 2022 (UTC)


 * It really only fits part of your description, but I'll just throw it out there: Barry Lyndon? Clarityfiend (talk) 03:46, 4 July 2022 (UTC)


 * A lot of your descriptions fit the film Bold Adventure (IMDb link) whose original title is Les Aventures de Till L'Espiègle. I remember enjoying it as a youngster but it has been at least 40 years since I last saw it so I'm mentioning it more to recall my past than thinking it might be what you are looking for. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 04:18, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The History of Tom Jones, a Foundling was made into Tom Jones (1963 film). Card Zero  (talk) 11:22, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes! This is definitely it! Thank you.
 * The others hit some similar plot points, thanks to everyone who responded. 98.170.164.88 (talk) 14:29, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Joseph Andrews? DuncanHill (talk) 13:08, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * See immediately above for why this is not the right answer. :) --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  21:22, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * He posted that before the OP confirmed that Tom Jones was the right answer. --Viennese Waltz 11:29, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * So he did. Well spotted, Carstairs. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  20:34, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, my precognition was on the blink. DuncanHill (talk) 23:22, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * We'll let you off with a warning just this once. :) --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  20:34, 9 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hmm, Lady Booby, Fanny Goodwill ... given that boobies is c. 1680 and Fanny Hill was 1748, it's apparent that Ian Fleming's terrible single-entendre names were part of a grand tradition. Card Zero  (talk) 10:25, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * To be fair to Fleming, most of the "single-entendre names" originated in the films, with Pussy Galore being perhaps the only exception. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 10:40, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Also my understanding is that the vulgar associations of "fanny" stem from the 1940 novel, Fanny by Gaslight. Alansplodge (talk) 12:08, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * OED has a possible use in that sense from 1835, and a definite one from 1879. It does say "It is likely that no such association existed for 18th-cent. writers (see especially discussion in Stud. Philol. 108 (2011) 108–32)". DuncanHill (talk) 12:16, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, so probably a myth. How dull. Well, I moved the dubious claim in Fanny Hill from the opening paragraph to the "Metonymy" section, where it can sit next to the above journal article. Card Zero  (talk) 13:40, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Maqam (in oriental music)
Is there a recognized maqam (in oriental non-Greek music) that contains at least one of the following (ascending) sub-sequences of consecutive musical intervals (in tones):

+ quarter + quarter (as it is at the beginning of the ancient Greek enharmonic tetrachord).

or

+ quarter + half + quarter.

or

+ quarter + half + ... + half + quarter (ellipsis indicating an ascending sub-sequence of consecutive halves, no matter how many).

To sum up: Is there a recognized maqam that contains an ascending sub-sequence of consecutive musical intervals (in tones), that start with a (plus) quarter and end with a (plus) quarter, between which the (ascending) musical intervals are consecutive halves only - whether some halves or a single half or even zero halves - yet halves only (if at all).

For that matter, if there is a maqam that ascends and then descends, then it is legitimate to answer my question by a theoretical, ascending-only maqam, which contains exactly all the sounds contained in the original maqam. 147.236.152.145 (talk) 07:33, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Montreux Jazz Festival venue renaming
The Montreux Jazz Festival has two main venues, the Auditorium Stravinski and the Montreux Jazz Lab. The latter used to be known as the Miles Davis Hall, see. When and why was it renamed? Davis has a problematic reputation these days, with allegations of wife-beating and so on, but he remains a legend in the world of jazz and had a close relationship with Montreux, so I find it surprising that his name was removed. --Viennese Waltz 07:36, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * This page about a conference to be held in Montreux in 2023, still calls it "Miles Davis Hall". Alansplodge (talk) 11:32, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Good point, and indeed the website of the convention centre that hosts the festival still calls it that as well. Seems like the hall is only called the Jazz Lab during the festival itself. --Viennese Waltz 12:30, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * According to Mathieu Jaton, Claude Nobs's successor as organizer of the festival since 2013, they wanted a name reflecting the program, in order for the audience to know better what to expect:


 * "Take the old Miles Davis Hall: there was almost everything and its opposite, with a program that ranged from electro to jazz. By renaming this place, we have also given it a clear artistic identity that is in step with the times. We wanted a punchy and connected room, in which we will find the spirit of clubbing, its friendly bars and a screen on which the tweets of Internet users will be displayed. This place must be a laboratory of today's music. [...] But the case of the Lab is significant in that it is accompanied by a spectacular drop in ticket prices. “In this area, we had a policy that put us at a disadvantage compared to halls and clubs in French-speaking Switzerland. The public sometimes deserted the Miles Davis Hall because they found artists there who had performed during the year in the region at a lower price. So we decided that our evenings at the Lab would cost 35 to 60 francs. And we have not budged from this starting postulate."
 * (mostly Google Translate's tranlation, but you can blame me if you find it faulty). The orginal article by Rocco Zacheo appeared in Le Temps in 2013 and can be read here: "Le lexique retrouvé du Montreux Jazz") ---Sluzzelin talk  11:56, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Great find, thanks Sluzzelin. --Viennese Waltz 12:30, 4 July 2022 (UTC)