Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2022 May 31

= May 31 =

Recent pictures of actors in past movies
Hi all,

I often see pictures of actors in articles about movies and the pictures are taken years after the movie. I think it doesn't really make sense because the information people should get in an article is how actors actually looked in the movie. For example, in the article about Titanic which was released in 1997, the picture of DiCaprio is from 2014 and the picture of Winslet is from 2011 (Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_(1997_film)#Cast). I've seen the same thing in many other articles and it always kind of bugs me. Should it be changed? Ericdec85 (talk) 05:58, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The problem presumably relates to finding and uploading an appropriate non-copyrighted photo, or a fair-use rationale for using a non-free image. For example, the c:Category:Leonardo DiCaprio in 1997 has no images. --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 06:31, 31 May 2022 (UTC)


 * This is one of those weird things about Wikipedia: that original research is forbidden, but the only photos allowed are either certified to be free or are taken by editors... which constitutes "original research", in that we have to take the editor's word that the subject is who it is claimed to be. --←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:52, 31 May 2022 (UTC)


 * If, and only if, you have access to pictures which are compatible with Wikipedia's reuse license. See WP:IUP for more details.  The reason why more pictures aren't available is that Wikipedia only allows the use of images which are either a) in the public domain (which means there is no valid copyright on them) or b) which are explicitly licensed as CC-BY-SA.  It is the responsibility of the uploader to prove such images are correctly licensed, if they did not take the picture themselves, and as such, essentially all images you find on the internet are not appropriate for Wikipedia use.  -- Jayron 32 11:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Name That car Toon
I'm looking for the name (and hopefully online streaming location) of a classic cartoon from the Golden age of American animation with the following premise:

A viscous →mean guard dog is guarding a construction site. Undaunted, an adorable little kitten walks up to the snarling beast; purring, the kitten rubs against the dog with a little "mieu". Instantly smitten, the dog spends the rest of the cartoon rescuing the kitten from various perils and misadventures on the construction site. Thanks in advance (I'm going to bed and wont respond for awhile). --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 06:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * There's more than one cartoon with a similar theme. See Marc Antony and Pussyfoot. And I assume you meant "vicious", as the dog does not appear to be fluid. :) --←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:46, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You're right; I stand →sit corrected. --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 19:16, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * That appears to be "Cat Feud", directed by the great Chuck Jones. Youtube has an excerpt. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:11, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I didn't realize that Marc Antony and Pussyfoot were recurring characters. --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 15:21, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Watch 3 movies
Hi everybody! Sorry for the unhelpful title. I'd like to watch the movies:
 * " Good Mourning", starring Machine Gun Kelly, Megan Fox, Becky G etc. Actually, I need to find subtitles and I don't know where, the movie itself I have it, just need greek subtitles if possible.
 * " Big Bang Made the Movie", starring boy band Big Bang. I need both movie and subtitles, I doubt about greek ones but english would be really helpful.
 * "The Act III: Moment of Truth the End", starring G-Dragon. Again, I need as above, just because I do not want to pay YouTube premium.

Thanks - fenia🖤tellmehi 10:38, 31 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Just Watch is a service that allows users to find where specific movies are being streamed from. Unfortunately, I did not find any of your three movies on there. Good Mourning is a brand new movie and apparently not available streaming anywhere yet. I assume it's in theatres since it was just released last week. The site did not seem to recognize the other two titles. So, you may be out of luck, but perhaps there's a Korean-centered service that might be better for those two? In any case, most streaming services require some kind of payment or subscription, so YouTube premium might be your best bet anyway. Not that you specifically requested this, but just to be clear: we're not going to find pirated versions of that material for you. 64.235.97.146 (talk) 13:54, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Paul Plunkett
Apologies for presuming on your assistance once again. While checking whether we had an article on the Australian operetta singer Paul Plunkett (we don't), I found in Paul Plunkett (disambiguation) the name Anna Freeman (born 1954), Australian trumpeter. There's no shortage of references to the Australian classical trumpeter Paul Plunkett, who is probably the Paul Francis Plunkett born April 7 1954. From the authorship of Beyond Brass Basics and the early history of the Freeman article, it would appear these are the same person, but there is now no mention of such in the article. Is this a BLP issue ? Doug butler (talk) 14:30, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Evidently Paul Plunket and Anna Freeman are the same person (see this Wikipedia snapshot from 3/22/2016). The article should include "Born Paul Plunket, [date]", but unlike the Wendy Carlos article where transgederism is well documented, assuming such might indeed violate BLP without proper sourcing. --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 17:32, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The article was started on 7 June 2007. The name "Anna Freeman" first appeared in the article on 6 August 2017. The article was renamed "Anna Freeman" on 28 August 2018. The last mention of the name "Paul Plunkett" was removed from the main text one month later, in this edit. The name "Plunkett" does not appear anywhere on her website. (If, as seems likely from the notices in The Herald, she was born "at Mercy Hospital", then the actual place of birth would not be Drouin but presumably Melbourne, at Mercy Private Hospital in East Melbourne). --Lambiam 09:54, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Some distance from Melbourne, but Plunkett was living at Drouin in 1976 when he was awarded a Churchill Fellowship. Doug butler (talk) 14:15, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * It is hard to reconcile "Paul Francis Plunkett" with "Paul R. C. Plunkett", so perhaps two namesakes were both born in 1954, separated by a mere 100 km. --Lambiam 21:20, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Compare those odds with the likelihood of someone tweaking their middle names :) Doug butler (talk) 22:17, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * "Paul Plunkett" is not an extraordinarily uncommon name, with eleven such names on the Australian electoral rolls in the period 1930–1980, which suggest that "R. C." stands for "Robert Charles". I have no statistics on the incidence of people tweaking their middle names in various cultures, but I suspect it is a rather rare thing to do. I can see why someone might want to change their name from "Joseph Stalin Jones" to "Joseph Stanley Jones", but have more trouble imagining a reason for a desire to change "Paul Francis Plunkett" into "Paul Robert Charles Plunkett". --Lambiam 07:59, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Agreed. The surname "Plunkett" is not as rare as I thought, having since done a search of Australian Archives. I was focused on the year 1954 as found by the original editor, and my argument relied on that YOB, but ain't necessarily so. Doug butler (talk) 08:14, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * 2603, actually MOS:GENDERID requires more than "well documented". It requires that the person is notable under the prior name, a subtle but important distinction. Until someone establishes this, I've removed any mention of the other name in our articles. Technically MOS:GENDERID applies to this discussion as well but I'll leave it be. Nil Einne (talk) 06:12, 3 June 2022 (UTC)