Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2023 February 24

= February 24 =

Cristina Vee "1999"
The last time I remembered coming on this page, it showed Cristina Vee has done singing voices for Family Guy, and now's it's erased off. Care to have an explanation please? I'd (I would) love to hear it. Cristina Vee actually started her career in 1999, and if that doesn't prove anything, then here yo go, though it maybe wrong, but we'll never know, plus, Wikipedia would lie about stuff and that, but it actually said she basically began her career at 11-12 years old and not 17-18. Alexkrzywicki1 (talk) 16:03, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Are you sure you saw it here? The history of the article is available for inspection: Special:PageHistory/Cristina Vee. I did not find a version mentioning Family Guy, but I did not check all 2714 revisions, so if this was only briefly on the page I may have missed it. Generally, our policy is that we require all info in our articles to be verifiable, meaning it is supported by reliable sources. It is conceivable that one editor added this without citing a source, and another editor could not verify the information in conformance with our verifiability policy. If you can find a reliable source stating that Vee was a singing voice actor for Family Guy, you are welcome to add the information yourself. (Don't forget to add a reference to the source.)  --Lambiam 19:07, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Remember The Themes
Can someone please tell me who is the performer of track 1, 5, 12 and 13 on this album? It's obviously not the original performer and it's obviously not the cover by AmaLee

Unfortunately the page only lists the name of the record company as the performer which is ridiculous Trade (talk) 17:53, 24 February 2023 (UTC)


 * The performer is listed as Coded Channel. --Lambiam 19:24, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
 * That's the name of the record label, not the performer. Trade (talk) 22:09, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
 * This is pure speculation since I couldn't find any sources to confirm the core element but hopefully that's okay. I suspect this question is very difficult to answer. From what I can tell Coded Channel seems to be a label which Break Pedal Music uses to release covers of theme songs on streaming services (maybe also to sell). I assume it's a niche they thought they could fill, perhaps in part since it's likely not all original versions of themes are even on all such services or in certain territories, and for various reasons this could also change at any time. They may also figure some people may want a variant/cover or people may find their version rather than the original when searching. In the US at least, as I understand it, compulsory mechanical licenses now cover streaming services and in any case, licencing covers may over be streamlined as it's something a lot of music content creators (i.e. Youtube musicians etc) do. I doubt they expected and don't think they've had amazing success so it's probably something they do cheaply. (Remembering that part of any royalties they receive is going to the copyright holder of the composition.) This means hiring people to do the cover (singers, instrumentalists etc) as a work for hire i.e. they pay a fee and take ownership of all copyright of the performance. Cheaply means they likely did not hire anyone with any profile. I suspect they also used contract terms that do not require any attribution, which simplifies listing the cover. And also means anyone looking into the work will find other songs by Coded Channel.  It's possible maybe even likely that at least some of the people behind Coded Channel are musicians themselves so may do at least some of the work, whether this includes being a main singer in any of them I don't know. Not a cover but think of the involvement of the products of Friday (Rebecca Black song) for example.  While their may be some small possible advantages in the people they hired remaining completely anonymous e.g. since it's unlikely they did any sort of significant background check it reduces the risk some controversy surrounding one of the people involved could blow up. But frankly given the small size and relative obscurity it's unlikely and even if it happens it may be an advantage (any publicity is good publicity sort of thing). Also just generally, I doubt that the people behind Coded Channel would have bothered with an NDA and unlikely even they did, they're probably not checking up.  So if you could find contact info for Coded Channel or Break Pedal Music you could probably ask them and they might tell you.  There is a slight chance if you scoured Twitter, Youtube, maybe IMDb, etc etc, you could find someone mentioning their involvement, or maybe a family member or friend. (I know this happened for the infamous Rappin' for Jesus even if it counters the admittedly already well discredited notion it was a genuine video from the 1990s made by a church group rather than a fake for fun.) While there's a technical chance someone may have recognised a performer by voice and mentioned it somewhere on the internet, but per my earlier point on the likely obscurity of performer IMO this is unlikely. (Also the fact the idea is probably to mimic the original as closely as possible.)  There are some loose similarities with karaoke VCDs etc from the 1990s. I think these often used local artists from where ever they were made. AFAIK they were generally not credited and suspect by now it might be very hard to find the names for many of them.  Nil Einne (talk) 14:10, 25 February 2023 (UTC)