Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2023 May 31

= May 31 =

Predator
The film series do not give any explanation, how a species with thermal vision can create advanced technology. SpartanTasrdas (talk) 09:50, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Anything is possible in a fictional work. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:57, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Bugs is correct. It is worth noting that the thermal vision is part of their advanced tech. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 14:14, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't understand your problem. Why would you think that having thermal vision would make it impossible for a species to develop advanced technology?--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 14:21, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * There is one complication. Thermal vision doesn't combine very well with a high body temperature, as you can't really see things that are colder than the detector. Animals with thermal vision usually have a low body temperature (like snakes) and hunt for animals with a high body temperature (mice, birds). A low body temperature may not combine very well with powerful brains, which work best with a constant body temperature, which must be fairly high, as the body can't be kept far below ambient temperature – unless the animal lives in an environment with a very constant temperature. Octopodes have decent brains, but they are aquatic (stabilising body temperature) and therefore cannot have thermal vision, water being opaque to infrared. I can't rule out a very smart troglobiontic snake that uses thermal vision to hunt bats, but it doesn't look like an environment that greatly rewards being smart. Films rarely care about such details. PiusImpavidus (talk) 15:47, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Tazuni
Tazuni is the name of the new mascot of the 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup. She is a female penguin. But there is another Tazuni, a famous lesbian penguin from the Central Park Zoo. There seems to be a lot of overlap. Was this issue addressed in some way? I imagine there could be copyright problems for FIFA. 212.171.17.134 (talk) 14:43, 31 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Courtesy links:-
 * New Love Breaks Up a 6-Year Relationship at the Zoo
 * From the Tasman Sea to the world: Tazuni™ revealed as Official Mascot of the FIFA Women’s World Cup™
 * Alansplodge (talk) 16:32, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Addressed by whom? It's just a name. I'm struggling to understand why this might be a problem for anyone. A name is not copyrightable (though it can in certain circumstances be trademarked). Shantavira|feed me 08:13, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
 * FIFA have trademarked the name. It does seem a bit cheeky, but I can't see how the zoo would be adversely affected. Alansplodge (talk) 13:07, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
 * It is not hard to imagine the zoo filing a lawsuit asking for a share of the revenues of the merchandise depicting Tazuni. This situation seems a little risky for FIFA. --212.171.17.134 (talk) 13:40, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

A few thoughts here: First, trademark law is very different than copyright law. A trademark is a recognizable sign, design, or expression that identifies products or services from a particular source and distinguishes them from others. As an example, our trademark article uses a picture of 'Linux' detergents to illustrate the fact that the product does not infringe the trademark rights of the 'Linux' computer operating system because they are different categories. The key question asked is whether there is a likelihood of confusion that consumers will believe that both products or services originated from the same company or organization. Second, I noticed that FIFA is only currently using the standard "TM" trademark symbol, not the "&reg;" registered trademark symbol. And I do not believe the Central Park Zoo uses either symbol when referencing its penguin. Without registering a trademark with a nation's trademark office, trademark infringement proceedings are generally limited. Third, the Central Park Zoo would have the burden of filing such a trademark lawsuit infringement. The zoo and its operator, the Wildlife Conservation Society, are U.S. nonprofit organizations who may not have the necessary money and legal resources to challenge a worldwide organization like FIFA, particularly if they would have to file at a court outside the U.S. or specifically if it would have to be in Australia. Fourth, although association football may generate some fans and viewers in the U.S., the sport is generally far below the popularity totem pole from American football, baseball, and basketball. With the lack of relative widespread coverage in the national U.S. mass media, much less in the New York City media, I would not even be surprised if there was nobody at the zoo or the Wildlife Conservation Society who are even aware what is being planned at this year's Women's World Cup. Zzyzx11 (talk) 17:06, 1 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Plausibly, nobody at FIFA was aware of a gay penguin in an American zoo (although they might have thought of Googling it first). "Dennis the Menace" is an example of the same character name being used in two different countries without either having any knowledge of the other. Alansplodge (talk) 13:28, 2 June 2023 (UTC)