Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2013 August 2

= August 2 =

Archaeology and indigenous rights
What is the degree of indigenous legal protection for native artifacts/ancient remains inhibiting archaeologists in the United States (the mainland, Hawaii and Alaska)? I know in Hawaii it is basically impossible to touch any native sites without indigenous activists calling you a grave robber for example the Forbes cave controversy. And on the mainland, tribes often claim ancient remains found by archaeologists as members of their tribes and try to have them reburied. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:03, 2 August 2013 (UTC)


 * See Kennewick Man, Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act... AnonMoos (talk) 04:38, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
 * If you have access to American Antiquity, try reading this article from 1995 — someone stole artifacts from the Mount Vernon Site in far southwestern Indiana, took them into Kentucky, and was prosecuted under NAGPRA (per Anonmoos) for crossing state lines with stolen prehistoric artifacts. General Electric, the property owner, basically stiffed everyone by dumping the recovered artifacts in a hole in the ground in order to satisfy legal requirements; the archaeologists were deeply disappointed/displeased (Mount Vernon is one of the largest Hopewell mounds ever found), and I think that the tribe they consulted (which of course can't be determined to be descendents of people from 3000 years ago) was rather unhappy about the process too.  Nyttend (talk) 16:55, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Maya Angelou quote
I believe this question fits in this section, but if not feel free to move it.

A hopefully simple request: I have found a quote by Maya Angelou: "Segregation shaped me; education liberated me." Can someone help me find out the year she had written/said this quotation? The site I read it did not say, and I have looked online with no success.

Thanks! 64.229.155.218 (talk) 06:34, 2 August 2013 (UTC)


 * According to this book, she said it to Henry Louis Gates Jr. in interviews for the book. The book was published in 2009 but apparently is based on 2006 and 2008 TV series. 184.147.137.9 (talk) 11:28, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Models of Landseer's lions
This page on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lions_of_trafalgar_Square._Could_these_models_be_Landseer_proofs..JPG) is the only reference I can find on the internet to the existence of these model lions in bronze thought to be cast from clay proofs submitted by Landseer for approval to the Ministry of Works Committee. I am very interested to find out more about them: where they are, whether they are on public display, who they belong to etc. We are interested in including them in an exhibition. Any help will be very gratefully received. Roger959 (talk) 10:25, 2 August 2013 (UTC)


 * See File talk:Lions of trafalgar Square. Could these models be Landseer proofs..JPG. I don't think we are likely to have any information other than the comments the uploader of that file made; they were his only two edits to the site. You could always try emailing him. Andrew Gray (talk) 18:31, 2 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Although there are Victorian replicas of the Trafalgar Square lions, such as A VICTORIAN BRONZE MODEL OF A RECUMBENT LION AFTER LANDSEER, CIRCA 1880. Alansplodge (talk) 21:54, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

I am reminded of the joke..Nelson did not say kiss me Hardy, he said, "Nothing ostentatious, just a two hundred foot column, and get old Lanseer to knock up a few lions"85.211.204.94 (talk) 23:54, 4 August 2013 (UTC)