Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2013 November 23

= November 23 =

Former sovereign citizens
I've been looking for testimonials (just stories about their experiences, why they left, &c.) from people who were formerly involved in "sovereign citizen" or "freeman on the land" movements but haven't been able to find any. Are there any such people? --superioridad (discusión) 09:06, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I googled "former sovereign citizens" and the only thing that seems to come up is the ones who have been incarcerated. Considering the nature of these characters, if I decided to stop calling myself a "sovereign citizen" I don't think I would advertise it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:59, 23 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I tried the search strings "why I am no longer" and "my life as a" and "memoirs of a" + various iterations of tax rebel, sovereign citizen, etc. I haven't read these results so I don't know if they are ex or not, but have a look at Memoirs of a tax resistor, Why I am no longer a libertarian, Autobiography of a Catholic Anarchist and this book: Confessions of a Radical Tax Protestor: An Inside Expose of the Tax Resistance Movement. 184.147.136.249 (talk) 14:44, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
 * That first link, at the very least, is not a "former" tax protestor. He just doesn't have much of anything now. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:45, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, there's a dilemma: If you consider yourself sovereign, i.e. that you answer only to yourself, doesn't that get compromised if you "join" something? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:47, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I imagine this is one of your jokes, but it falls flat; there's no reason joining an organization should conflict with individual "sovereignty". It's not like "anarchist leader"; one can join an organization without becoming subservient to it. It is not necessary to come up with a quip for every question on the boards. --jpgordon:==( o ) 17:37, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Sunni Muslims into Shi'a Muslims
Are Persian Muslims the only Muslims who were formerly Sunni and became Shi'a due to a policy of an empire or dynasty like Safavids? What about Azeris, Lurs, Gilakis, Mazandarani, and Qashqais? Were they Sunni Muslims before Shi'a Muslims? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.229.80 (talk) 16:37, 23 November 2013 (UTC)


 * What about Fatimid Egypt? The ruling dynasty at least was Shia, and when the Ayyubids conquered it, it needed to be Sunni-ized again, although it seems unlikely that the general population was entirely Shia. Adam Bishop (talk) 21:25, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

I only want to know Azeris, Lurs, Gilakis, Mazandarani and Qashqais. That's it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.89.43.75 (talk) 18:26, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Missing in article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_College,_Colombo
Missing in article on Royal College http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_College,_Colombo

Wendell W Solomons Researcher in strategic geopolitical, economic and social forecasting

Number of websites using articles - 102,000 https://www.google.ca/#q=+-facebook+%22wendell+w+solomons%22

Joined school in 1955 Royal College Hostel photograph Row 2: Wendell Solomons http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lkawgw/rcpa01.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.21.166.13 (talk) 21:13, 23 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Please raise this matter at Talk:Royal College, Colombo. Thank you.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  02:16, 24 November 2013 (UTC)