Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2013 October 15

= October 15 =

Korean peace treaty
Who is North Korea technically at war with? I am guessing South Korea and the USA, but also some other countries? Japan? The whole of NATO? I am asking because I am wondering how many nations would come to the table to sign the peace treaty, if it ever happens. --Lgriot (talk) 08:19, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Since the Korean War was a UN mission, I guess they are technically at war with most of the world... at least the Korean Armistice Agreement was signed on behalf of the UN on one side, and North Korea + China on the other side. WegianWarrior (talk) 08:32, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * But the UN was conducting a "police action", right? I'm not sure any nation other than the south declared war on the north, though I don't know who else the north declared it on. —Akrabbimtalk 14:09, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It seems to me - reading up on declarations of war after WW2 - that war was actually never formally declared by neither the North Koreans nor the South Koreans. The United Nations Security Council Resolution 82 and United Nations Security Council Resolution 83 on the other hand makes it clear that the Korean War was a Chapter VII operation - a "peace creating" as opposed to a "peace keeping" mission - so I guess the argument might be made that the UN declared war on North Korea (whom the UN considered to be the aggressive part in the conflict). WegianWarrior (talk) 14:50, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * There's a list of all the countries involved in the infobox at Korean War. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:53, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Very strange, if WegianWarrior is right, China signed the Armistice on the side of N. Korea versus the UN, so it was technically in a conflict against the UN, of which it was a full member of the security council and in which it had right of veto! And if our infobox in the Korean War article is right, so was the Soviet Union. The definition of what is "the UN" continues to amaze me. --Lgriot (talk) 07:35, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, the "China" sitting on the security council was ROC, whereas it was PRC that participated in the conflict on the side of the North. PRC was only recognized as the representative of China by the UN in 1971. 129.178.88.81 (talk) 10:36, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * ROC being Taiwan, the last remnant of the former Nationalist Republic of China. Alansplodge (talk) 10:03, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Irish surnames
Can someone list the most common Irish surnames? --not O'- surnames, please --  Miss Bono  [hello, hello!]  16:39, 15 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Top 50 according to http://www.genealogyforum.rootsweb.com/gfaol/surnames/Irish.htm

Boyle	Brennan	Brown	Burke Burns	Calhoun	Callahan	Campbell Carroll	Clark(e)	Collins	Conley Conner	Daugherty	Duffy	Dunn Farrell	Ferguson / Fergusen	Fitzgerald	Flynn Gallagher	Hays / Hayes	Hughes	Jackson Johnston	Kelly	Kennedy	Lynch Martin	McCarthy	McDonald	McGuire Moore	Murphy	Murray	Nolan O'Brien	O'Donnell	O'Neal / O'Neil / O'Neill	Quinn Reilly	Ryan	Smith	Sullivan Sweeney	Thompson	Walsh	White μηδείς (talk) 16:46, 15 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, thanks. Can you find something like that for names (female and male)? If not, it's ok.  Miss Bono  [hello, hello!]  16:50, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

1	Conor	Concobhar	Gaelic: 'hound lover' 2	Sean	Se�n	 Hebrew: 'God has favoured' or Variants: Eoin, Seon, Shaun, Shawn, Shane 3	Jack	Se�n	A form of name John. Hebrew: 'God has favoured' or Variants: Eoin, Seon, Shaun, Shawn, Shane 4	James	S�amus	derived from Jacob 5	Adam	Adhamh	Gaelic: 'red earth' or 'ruddy', Hebrew: man 6	Michael	Miche�l	Hebrew: 'who is like God?', one of the archangels 7	David	D�ivi, Daithi	Hebrew: 'loved one' 8	Aaron	�ron	Biblical; 'high mountain' 9	Daniel	Dain�al, Dainial	Hebrew: 'God is my judge' 10	Dylan 11	Shane	Se�n	A form of Sean, popularised by Shane of'Neill, Ulster Chieftain, 1567 12	Cian	Cian	Gaelic: 'ancient', Cain, Kian and Kean are variants 13	Ryan	Ryan	Gaelic: 'little king' 14	Luke	L�c�s	Greek: 'of Luciana', popularised by Saint Luke 15	John	Se�n	Hebrew: 'God has favoured' or Variants: Eoin, Seon, Shaun, Shawn, Shane 16	Eoin	Se�n, Iain	An Irish form of the name John 17	Mark	Marcas	Mars: The Roman God of War 18	Patrick	P�draig	National name of Ireland, from Latin meaning 'noble', Latin word patricius indicates a member of the Patricians, Roman nobility. 19	Thomas	Tom�s	Aramaic: 'twin', one of the Apostles 20	Jordan	 	Irish surname 21	Liam	Liam	Gaelic form of William 22	Jamie		Variant form of James 23	Stephen	Stiof�n, Steaf�n	Greek: 'crown', Christin martyr 24	Matthew	Matha, Maiti�	Hebrew: 'God's present', one of the Apostles 25	Oisin	�is�n	Gaelic: deer, a legendary figure 26	Nathan 27	Robert	Roibe�rd	Germanic: 'fame bright' 28	Andrew	Aindr�as, Aindrias	Greek: 'manly', one ofthe Apostles 29	Darragh		Gaelic: 'oak' 30	Ciaran	 	Saint Ciaran 31	Joseph	Seosamh, Iosaf	Hebrew: 'God added', Satin Joseph 32	Dean 33	Kevin	Caoimh�n	Gaelic: 'comely birth', Saint Kevin founded Glendalough 618 ad 34	Evan 35	Jason	Iasan	Greek: 'healer', Argonaut leader 36	Brian	 	Gaelic: 'hill' Brian Boru, High King of Ireland 1014 ad, Bryan and Bryant are variants. Surnames include O'Brien and O'Byrne. 37	Niall	N�all	Gaelic: 'cloud', Niall of the nine Hostages, founder of the O'Neill Gaelic dynasty, Scottish form is Neil 38	Ben	Beircheart	From Benjamin, Hebrew: ' southerner' 39	Paul	P�l	Latin paulus: 'little', Roman for Saul: 'asked for', an early Christin 40	Christopher	Cr�ost�ir	Greek: 'Christ bearing' 41	Eoghan	 	Gaelic: 'well born', used as a form of Eugene and Owen 42	Cathal	 	Gaelic: 'battle mighty' Cathal Crobhdhearg 'red hand' was king of Connaught 1224 ad, sometimes used for Charles 43	Ross	Ros	Gaelic: 'promontory', Ulster name 44	Joshua	 	Biblical name 45	Ronan	R�n�n	Gaelic: 'little seal', Ronan was King of Leinster 46	Lee 47	Darren	 	Gaelic: 'little great one' 48	Peter	Peadar	Aramaic: 'rock', name given to Saint Simon by Christ 49	Craig	 	Gaelic words is 'carrig' meaning 'rock' 50	William	Liam	Germanic: 'will helmet' 51	Jake 52	Anthony	Antaine, Antoine	Roman name 53	Alan	Ail�n	Gaelic:' noble', Allan and Allen are variants 54	Colm	Coilm, Columba	Gaelic: 'dove' 55	Cormac	Cormac	Gaelic: 'raven' Surnames include McCormack and McCormick Cormac MacCuilleanan was king of Munster 56	Samuel	Sorley	Hebrew: 'name of God' 57	Alex	Alastar	Alexander, Greek: 'helper of man' 58	Gavin 59	Killian	Cillian	Gaelic: 'strife', Saint Killian 60	Kyle 61	Cillian		Gaelic: 'strife', Saint Killian 62	Padraig	Padraig	National name of Ireland, from Latin meaning 'noble', Latin word patricius indicates a member of the Patricians, Roman nobility. 63	Richard	Risteard	Germainc: 'ruler hard' 64	Ian	Ion	Iain is the Scottish-Gaelic form of Eoin, and thus John 65	Martin	M�irt�n	Mars, Saint Martin of Tours 397 ad, was relative of St. Patrick 66	Rory	Ruair�, Ruaraidh	Gaelic: 'red, Rory O'Connor was High King of Ireland 1170 ad 67	Brandon	 Breandan	Gaelic: 'prince', Saint Brendan of Birr, 571 ad 68	Alexander	 Alastar	Alexander, Greek: 'helper of man' 69	Aidan	Aodhan	Gaelic: 'little fire', Saint Aidan 651 ad 70	Harry 71	Karl	 	Germanic form of Charles 72	Gary	 	A form of Gerald 73	Kieran	Ciar�n	Gaelic: little dark one', Saint Kieran 74	Keith		Scottish placename 75	Benjamin	Beircheart	Hebrew: ' southerner' 76	Ethan 77	Leon 78	Philip	Pilip	Greek: 'lover of horses', Kings of Macedonia. Saint Philip was one of the Apostles. 79	Callum 80	Colin	Coile�n	Gaelic: 'cub'. Surname Collins 81	Edward	Eamonn, Eadbhard	Anglo-Saxon: 'rich guard' 82	Gerard	Gear�rd	Germainc: 'spear hard', Saint Gerald Majella 1755 ad 83	Scott 84	Brendan	Brendan Breandan	Gaelic: 'prince', Saint Brendan of Birr, 571 ad 85	Owen	Eoghan	Gaelic: 'well born', used as a form of Eugene 86	Dillon	 	Ray of light, hope 87	Jonathan	Ionat�n	Hebrew: 'God's gift' 88	Sam	Sorley	Hebrew: 'name of God' 89	Barry	Bearach, Barra	Gaelic:' spearlike', Saint Barry 90	Eric	 	Germanic 91	Shaun	 Se�n	A form of John. Hebrew: 'God has favoured' or Variants: Eoin, Seon, Shawn, Shane 92	Daragh	 	Gaelic: 'oak' 93	Donal	D�nal	Gaelic: 'world mighty'. Sometimes used for Daniel. SUrnames include O'Donnell and MacDonnells, MacDonalds 94	Diarmuid	Diarmuid	Gaelic 'envy free', form of Dermot. Legendary Irish hero who eloped with Grania, who was promised to Finn MacCool 95	Lorcan	Lorc�n	Gaelic: 'little fierce one', Saint Lorcan O'Toole 1180 ad 96	Tadhg	 	Gaelic: 'poet', used as a form of Timothy 97	Cameron 98	Fionn	Gaelic: 'fair' 99	Neil	N�all	Gaelic: 'cloud', Niall of the nine Hostages, founder of the O'Neill Gaelic dynasty, Scottish form is Neil 100	Reece


 * Holy ship! You are fast! Thaaaaank you so much! -- Miss Bono  [hello, hello!]  16:57, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * That's spelt shit, FYI. μηδείς (talk)

1	Chloe 2	Aoife	Aoife	Gaelic form of the name Eve. Aoife was a daughter of King Dermot of Leinster who married the Norman invader Strongbow. 3	Sarah	Sorcha, Sive, Saraid	Hebrew: 'princess' 4	Ciara	 	 Saint Ciara Saint, Tipperary, 679 a.d. 5	Niamh	  	Gaelic: 'bright', Princess of the land of Promise who left with Ossian for the Otherworld 6	Emma	 	Germanic: 'universal' 7	Rachel	R�ich�al	Hebrew: 'ewe' 8	Rebecca	 	Hebrew 9	Lauren 10	Megan	 	 Welsh origin: strong 11	Amy 12	Laura	 	Latin: 'laurel' 13	Katie	Catraoine	Greek. Catherine and Kate are variants. 14	Emily	Eimile	Feminine form of Roman name Aemilius 15	Shauna	Sh�una	Feminine form of Sean/Shaun 16	Nicole	 	Feminine form of Nicholas, Nicola is variant 17	Roisin	R�is�n	Gaelic: Rose, Rosaleen is a variant 18	Sophie	 	Greek: 'wisdom', Sophia is variant 19	Kate	Catraoine	Greek. Catherine and Katie are variants. 20	Shannon	 	Placename - the longest river in Ireland 21	Hannah	 	Greek: 'he has favoured me'. A form of Anne. Johanna and Nora are variants 22	Caoimhe	 	 Gentle, graceful, beauty 23	Jessica 24	Ellen 25	Aisling	 	Dream, vision 26	Sinead	Sin�ad	Gaelic form of Jane which is a feminine form of John. 27	Leah 28	Anna	 	Greek: 'he has favoured me'. A form of Anne. Johanna and Nora are variants 29	Tara	Teamhair	Placename: the seat of the High Kings of Ireland 30	Grace	Gr�inne	Gaelic: 'grain goddess', from Gr�inne, Grania was Finn MacCools betrothed who elooped with Dermot. Grace O'Malley was an Irish warrior princess. 31	Saoirse	 	Gaelic: Freedom 32	�ine	 	Gaelic: 'joy'/'praise'. Often used for Anne. �ine was the queen of the South Munster Fairies. 33	Jennifer	 	Cornish version of Guinevere menaing 'white wave'. Guinevere was King Arthur's wife. 34	Jade 35	Eimear	Eimhear	Emer was the wife of legendary Gaelic hero Cuchulainn. 36	Orla	Orfhlaith	Gaelic: 'golden lady'. Orlagh and Aurnia are variants. 37	Mary	M�ire	 Hebrew: Miriam, Greek: Mariam, Latin: Maria. Maire, Marion, Marian, Molly, Mollie, Moira and Maura are among the variants. 38	Clodagh	 	Placename: a County Tipperary river 39	Claire	Cl�r	Latin; 'bright', Saint Clare of Assissi 1253 ad. Clare is a variant. 40	Michelle	 	French feminine form of the name Michael. Michele and Michaela are variants. 41	Caitlin	Caitl�n	Gaelic form of Catherine, Katelyn is a variant 42	Olivia	Oilbhe/Ailbhe	A form of the name Olive which is of Latin origin. Elva is a variant. 43	Lucy	 	Feminine form of the Latin name Lucius. 44	Courtney 45	Louise	Labhaoise	Feminine form of the name Louis. Louisa is a variant. 46	Holly 47	Lisa	 	From Elizabeth 48	Danielle	 	Female form of Daniel 49	Grainne	Gr�inne	Gaelic: 'grain goddess', Grania was Finn MacCool's betrothed who elooped with Dermot. Grace is a variant. Grace O'Malley was an Irish warrior princess. 50	Kelly	Ceallach	Gaelic: 'strife. Widespread Irish surname. 51	Catherine	 	Greek. Kate and Katie are variants. 52	Leanne 53	Ruth	R�t	Biblical name 54	Chelsea 55	Kayleigh	Ceil�	Gaelic: party, celebration 56	Fiona	F�ona	Gaelic: 'fionn', meaning 'fair'. 57	Elizabeth	Eil�s	Hebrew: 'my God is satisfaction'. Saint Elizabeth was mother of John the Baptist. Eliza, Liz, Elsie and Elsa are among the variants. 58	Alison	Alls�n	From the name Alice 59	Michaela	 	A feminine form of the name michael. 60	Ava 61	Eva	Aoife	Latin form of the name Eve. Aoife was a daughter of King Dermot of Leinster who married the Norman invader Strongbow. 62	Robyn 63	Emer	Eimhear	Emer was the wife of legendary Gaelic hero Cuchulainn. 64	Molly	Maili/Maille/Mailsi	A form of the name Mary. 65	Maeve	Meadhbh	Gaelic: 'intoxicating one'. Maeve was a Queen of Connaught who invaded Ulster, defended by Cuchulainn. 66	Andrea	 	Feminine form of Andrew. 67	Zoe 68	Aimee 69	Jane	Sin�ad	Gaelic feminine form of John. 70	Lauryn 71	Maria	M�ire	 Hebrew: Miriam, Greek: Mariam, Latin: Maria. Mary, Maire, Marion, Marian, Molly, Mollie, Moira and Maura are among the variants. 72	Natasha	 	Russian: 'christmas', a form of Natalie. 73	Rachael	R�ich�al	Hebrew 74	Nicola	 	Feminine form of Nicholas, Nicole is variant 75	Sorcha	Sorcha, Sive, Saraid	Hebrew: 'princess' 76	Ella 77	Siobhan	Siobh�n	Gaelic form of Joan. Judith and Julia are variants. 78	Stephanie	 	A female form of Stephen 79	Abbie	Abaigeal	From Abigail meaning 'father rejoiced' 80	Alannah	Aleanbh	Gaelic 'a leanbh': 'O child'. Alana is a variant 81	Erin	 	Gaelic word for Ireland. 82	Katelyn	Caitl�n	Gaelic form of Catherine, Caitlin is a variant 83	Victoria	Victeoiria	Latin: 'victory' 8	Gemma	 	Italian: 'gem'. Saint Gemma Galgani 1903. 85	Melissa	 	Greek: 'bee'. 86	Eve	�abhla	Hebrew: 'lively'. 87	Allana	Aleanbh	Gaelic 'a leanbh': 'O child'. Alana is a 88	Alice	Ail�s	Germanic 'Adelaide': 'noble sort'. 89	Karen	 	Danish form of Catherine 90	Clara 91	Alexandra	 	Feminine form of Alexander, Greek: 'helper of man'. 92	Isobel	Isib�al	French forms of Elizabeth. Isabel and Isabella are variants. 93	Abigail	Abaigeal	From Abigail meaning 'father rejoiced' 94	Aishling	 	Dream, vision 95	Lorna	 	From the 1860 novel Lorna Doone. 96	Georgia	 	Feminine form of George, Greek: 'farmer'. 97	Jodie 98	Margaret	Mair�ad	Greek: 'pearl', Saint Margaret 1093 ad. Peg, Peggy and Margot are variants. 99	Kathleen	Caitl�n	Gaelic form of Catherine, Caitlin is a variant 100	Alanna	Aleanbh	Gaelic 'a leanbh': 'O child'. Allana is a

The above lists are easier to read if you open up a page to edit them. I am not going to attempt to properly format that many listings. μηδείς (talk) 16:58, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know. Thanks :D  Miss Bono  [hello, hello!]  17:00, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

When did the horses were observed in India first?
Few believe that horses were first used in India by Alexendra the great during his invasion and his victory over Porus only on account of the use of horses. But, in Bhimbetka a place near Bhopal, UNESCO certified a sight where we can see some arts where one man is sitting over a horse during hunting. The sight is declared as 10000 years date back. Then, what is the actual fact about the presence of horses? Are the horses originated from India as well or brought from Europe?Upmanaveen (talk) 19:22, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * See Bhimbetka rock shelters. The age of the numerous rock paintings varies greatly, from perhaps 30,000 years old to no more than a couple of centuries old. The Indira Gandhi National Centre for the Arts's website displays a number of rock paintings here, but the ones depicting horses all either from the Early Historic Period or Iron Age or at most perhaps very late Bronze Age. (Admittedly, some captions have no information on the artwork's age). We also have an article on History of the horse in South Asia. There's quite a bit of uncertainty, but I don't see any serious claims referring to 10,000 years ago. ---Sluzzelin talk  19:39, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * You may find Wikipedia's article on Evolution of the horse helpful. Given that what we think of as modern day "horses" existed in a very different way more than 5,000 years ago I don't doubt that the man is sitting on what he used as a "horse" at that time, but the animal has died out and been re-introduced many times in several parts of the world with specific species evolving and even pushing out/breeding out others.  Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way   19:45, 15 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Alexander is far too late. The Proto-Indo-Europeans domesticated the horse (domestication of the horse) and it was the Indo-Aryan peoples who brought the horse to India. μηδείς (talk) 21:28, 15 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Upmanaveen -- The systematic use of horses was presumably introduced into India by charioteers from Central Asia (possibly the Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex); the early Vedas describe a pastoral horse-using culture in the Punjab. Horses or equids may have been present in India before ca. 1500 B.C., but it would seem unlikely that they were tamed and ridden in any systematic way... AnonMoos (talk) 02:55, 16 October 2013 (UTC)