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= June 2 =

Stores in Northampton, United Kingdom
Is there a website that shows the list of stores available in Northampton, United Kingdom like ASDA, Morrison's, Sainsbury's, ALDI, W.H. Smith, Costa, Poundland and etc? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.34.12 (talk) 01:53, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Our Northampton article suggests the following link. --Shantavira|feed me 09:01, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Sabbath in Tahiti
"This was our Sunday but their Monday; if the case had been reversed we should not have received a single visit, for the injunction not to launch a canoe on the Sabbath is rigidly obeyed." Charles Darwin mentions this discrepancy in 1835. It was corrected by the French in November, 1846, much to the disastification of the LMS missionaries and islanders, as observed by Henry Byam Martin in his diary. How did this discrepancy started? Were the missionaries and islanders using the time and dates of Britain while the ships were using a time calculated to different time zones?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:46, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Time zones in the modern sense (i.e. nominal 15° longitude slices) didn't yet exist at that time, nor did a formal International Date Line. Presumably the discrepancy is due to day-counts kept on ships sailing west from Europe vs. day-counts kept on ships sailing east from Europe.  For a long time, Chinese-Americans in the west of the United States observed dates on the Chinese calendar based on the day-counts aboard ships sailing east from China (since the international date line, to the degree that it even existed in those days, was completely irrelevant to their purposes)... AnonMoos (talk) 05:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


 * But wouldn't that just explain ships sailing via the Strait of Magellan such as the Beagle? Captain Martin seems to indicate that it was a discrepancy in all visiting ships and certainly many took the other route sailing west past the Cape of Good Hope including the LMS missionaries in 1797.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:16, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


 * What does Darwin mean with "our Sunday" ? As the Beagle is sailing from the East she will be crossing the IDL with a one day-forward jump, thus achieving a 6-days' week subjective experience, and corresponding entries in the log-books. Isn't Darwin simply remarking that the people at that remote end of a continuously populated world, are not yet isolated from their neighbours to the West, by a math-and-sextant imposed jump in their dates, and social dates, like they later will be, with the universal and official settings of the datation line ? --Askedonty (talk) 19:44, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I wonder whether it was at all common then for ships to reset their shipboard calendars merely because they had crossed an abstract meridian... AnonMoos (talk) 21:36, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Circumnavigation was certainly not very much common in the 1820's. However what we're talking about is the Second_voyage_of_HMS_Beagle. --Askedonty (talk) 22:01, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Was Livia Drusilla wife of Roman emperor Augustus a mass murder and did she led her army into Rome to kill people?
Venustar84 (talk) 21:48, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


 * What source do you have for supposing she might have done? AlexTiefling (talk) 21:51, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I watched the tv Xena Warrior Princess in high school Livia was Xena's daughter who slaughtered people so that is/was not information guide to mythology or history:http://hercxena.wikia.com/wiki/LiviaVenustar84 (talk) 01:03, 4 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia has an article titled Livia. If you have any questions after reading that, please feel free to ask.  Also, if you have sources for information which are not included in the article, feel free to present links to those so we can assess them, if you wish.  -- Jayron  32  00:35, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The OP decided to visit my user talk page to reveal that their only source was an episode of Xena: Warrior Princess. AlexTiefling (talk) 13:08, 4 June 2014 (UTC)