Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2015 October 25

= October 25 =

Hurtigruten revenues
Hi. Just wondering if the Hurtigruten AS has more revenues from postal operating or from passenger/tourist transport. Doesn't find information on Wikipedia or any revenue report. Kind regards 77.239.42.242 (talk) 09:17, 25 October 2015 (UTC) To ask more precise, as Hurtigruten has "a number of travel related companies, including the tour operator Spitsbergen Travel and a number of travel agencies in Norway and abroad" and "Several former Hurtigruten ships now operate as cruise ships...". My questions just refers to the revenues from the Hurtigruten ships between Bergen and Kirkenes. For those ships I'm wondering if the postal service or the passenger transport is more lucrative. 77.239.42.242 (talk) 09:34, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Financial reports aren't always public. I found a source claiming that the company's primary source of revenue is tourism but it's not a very good source, since it's a travel article. I wonder if you might have better luck asking at the Norwegian reference desk? Find them here 184.147.131.85 (talk) 05:06, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Presidents or prime ministers running against each other for other office
I recently ran across the James Madison vs. James Monroe congressional election in Virginia's 5th district for the First Congress (1789). Are there other examples of future presidents or prime ministers of major nations running against each other for other offices? I'm aware of the Mackenzie King-Diefenbaker election for Prince Albert's seat in the Canadian House of Commons (1926).--Wehwalt (talk) 23:44, 25 October 2015 (UTC)


 * It was an appointment, not an election, but if you believe politicians never stop campaigning, Joe Clark succeeded Jean Chrétien as the Secretary of State for External Affairs in 1984. Clark had already had his cup of coffee in the big time, Chrétien was a grizzled vet, but not mainstream famous yet. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:06, 26 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Wehwalt, can you clarify. Do you mean that both were to have run in the same electoral district? CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 00:31, 26 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Or state. Basically a direct electoral contest for a public office other than the one they are famous for.  Like Madison ran against Monroe for the House of Representatives, or Dief challenged Mackenzie-King for his parliamentary seat. I'm pretty sure the Dief-MK race was the only time it happened in Canada, at least for the House of Commons as I patiently went through all the PMs on the Parliament of Canada website.(I haven't checked Justin). Obviously a presidential race where the incumbent loses isn't what I'm looking for.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:46, 26 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Franklin D. Roosevelt replaced Al Smith as governor of New York in 1929. They later both ran against each other for the [Democratic Party nomination for President in 1932].  Not sure if Roosevelt and Smith every directly ran against each other in a Primary election for governor; it would have been unlikely to have run in a General election for NY Governor, as they represented the same party.  -- Jayron 32 12:40, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Good point. Actually, you just gave me one. FDR vs. Coolidge for VP in 1920.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:45, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, I read the question a bit wrong. Since Al Smith never was President, the original requirements would have been wrong.  Though the Roosevelt-Coolidge find was a good one.  -- Jayron 32 13:04, 26 October 2015 (UTC)