Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2015 October 5

= October 5 =

Rebeka Montoya
how old is she?--Hijodetenerife (talk) 05:02, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thirtysix. According to this web page, she was born the 9th of March 1979 in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. --NorwegianBluetalk 14:57, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Trying to identify building in Madrid
Please take a look at this picture. Looks like a mosque. I took almost an identical picture some weeks ago. I was standing a couple of 100 meters to the right of the Royal Castle (my right when facing the castle), in Calle Bailén. I was facing the Jardines de Sabatini, or perhaps looking almost along the continuation of Calle Bailén. The building has clearly been renovated since the picture I linked to was shot. Otherwise, I can recognize every chimney on the rooftops. the angles match so perfectly that is must have been taken from the exact same spot. I've spent some time with maps.google.com (trees get in the way of the rooftops) and web-searching, without being able to identify the building. Can anyone help? --NorwegianBluetalk 14:19, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Church of Santa Teresa y San José (Madrid). Lots of photos here. --Viennese Waltz 14:48, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That was fast. Did you recognize it, or did you search smarter than I did? --NorwegianBluetalk 15:01, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I searched google images for "madrid colored dome". It was the third hit. --Viennese Waltz 15:02, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * So close! "Madrid dome" was one of many variations that I tried. "Colored" was of course the important keyword. And I scrutinized the block just left of the correct one in google maps. --NorwegianBluetalk 15:12, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Weird, it's actually the first hit when I search google images for "madrid dome", although maybe that's because I recently visited the page and it's now bringing it to the top of my search for some reason. --Viennese Waltz 15:37, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It came up first for me too. Perhaps it depends on your location when you Google, but who knows?
 * That's the thinnest Wikipedia article that I've ever seen! I'll have a bash at finding some basic details later if I have time. Alansplodge (talk) 16:40, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You'd be better off translating es:Templo Nacional de Santa Teresa de Jesús y Convento de los Padres Carmelitas Descalzos, or getting someone to do it for you. --Viennese Waltz 16:54, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * There was a complete dearth of any meaningful English references on Google, so I've picked out the bare bones of the Spanish article with the help of Google Translate. Perhaps a Spanish speaker (or reader) could cast an eye over my efforts. A year spent studying Spanish when I was 12 was largely wasted, not helped by me impetuously deciding not to try too hard in protest at the continuance of the Franco regime. It probably didn't contribute much to the end of Fascism. Alansplodge (talk) 18:26, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * A google image search for "Madrid dome" now returns several images of the Iglesia Parroquial de Santa Teresa y San José in the first result page for me too. Must be the search bubble effect. With DuckDuckGo, the first hit is Madrid Dome, followed by several booking pages offering rooms at Hotel Dome las Tablas. But number 11, titled "Byzantine Dome in Madrid", lead to this page which identifies the church. A search for "Madrid colored dome" gave nothing relevant for the first 30-40 hits or so. --NorwegianBluetalk 21:12, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your efforts, Alan! --NorwegianBluetalk 21:24, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Most welcome. Alansplodge (talk) 16:26, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Does the Trans-Pacific Partnership imply any change in the free movement of workers?
Does the Trans-Pacific Partnership imply any change in the free movement of workers? I mean, now or in the future, is the treaty headed into this direction? Otherwise, i don't see why countries with high labour costs would be able to keep their factories.--YX-1000A (talk) 22:00, 5 October 2015 (UTC)


 * To answer your basic question, no. The Trans-Pacific Partnership doesn't mention migration, and that's unlikely to change: anything that relaxed the US-Mexico border would be political suicide. Even when trade laws are very relaxed, factories can thrive in high-labour cost countries, as long as it's industry that requires skilled/educated labour. Germany (a member of the EU with absolutely zero trade barriers between it and low-wage countries like Poland, Portugal and Romania) has a massive industrial sector because it has modern, high-tech factories with skilled workers producing high-quality products that people are willing to pay a premium for. Similarly, despite millions of factory workers losing their jobs as wages increased in the second half of the 20th century, the UK actually manufactures more than it ever has before – it's just that its factories are largely automated and only need a few highly-educated workers instead of hundreds of manual labourers (it's vehicles and medicines that roll off British assembly lines these days, not pottery and steel). This is more or less independent of free movement, because high-labour cost countries are also the ones with enough capital to invest in modern factories and strong education systems – US industries underwent the exact same process, even though the American labour market is pretty closed off and the US has a lot of trade tariffs and Buy American clauses. Smurrayinchester 09:49, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * by "relax", do you mean "strengthen"? Asmrulz (talk) 17:06, 6 October 2015 (UTC)


 * According to this article, liberalizing trade has resulted in a loss of manufacturing jobs in the United States. These losses were not solely due to automation.  Some were due to the inability of U.S. labor to compete with Chinese labor on cost.  Free trade promotes global labor arbitrage, which tends to lower wages in high-wage countries.  It also has the effect of boosting wages for highly skilled workers whose skills are in short supply but face increased demand in a larger global market.  Examples would be the highly skilled software engineers employed by the likes of Apple in Silicon Valley, who have probably benefited from free trade.  Free trade can also boost earnings for corporations that benefit from global labor arbitrage and finding larger markets for their goods.  Higher corporate earnings tend to benefit a small segment of society comprised of large investors and corporate executives. On the other hand, higher earnings from trade may also lead corporations to increase domestic nonmanufacturing employment in areas such as design, marketing, and finance.  Those employment gains, again, tend to benefit people in high-wage countries with above-average education.  Less educated or affluent people in high-wage societies benefit from free trade as consumers, as cheaper goods imported from low-wage countries replace more expensive domestically produced goods.  What isn't clear is whether the benefit to them as consumers fully counterbalances their losses as wage earners.  What is clear is that the effect of free trade in high-wage countries varies by class.  Marco polo (talk) 19:01, 6 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Marco Polo, The Bloomberg piece you cite notes the rise -- not fall -- in US manufacturing jobs after NAFTA came into force. The case of China joining the WTO was so multi-faceted as to be only loosely a "trade" deal.DOR (HK) (talk) 16:53, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Russian brides
Are those ads about getting a Russian bride just scams? If not, how much do a bride cost?--Scicurious (talk) 23:00, 5 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Mail-order-brides in general tend to be women who want an easy way to immigrate to the nation. So, how much of a "wife" they will be is debatable.  They might very well file for divorce as soon as enough time has passed so they can remain in the nation legally. StuRat (talk) 01:23, 6 October 2015 (UTC)


 * And, of course, for our article, see Mail-order bride. Dismas |(talk) 01:57, 6 October 2015 (UTC)