Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2016 November 21

= November 21 =

A part in the Bible
I'm looking for something in the Bible I've read. I'm pretty sure it's in the New Testament. It's a teaching about people who satisfied themselves early, with things unworthy and when their real sustenance comes they are already full with the fake stuff.

212.96.33.44 (talk) 07:38, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't think that is the New Testament - and I have a degree in Theology. Wymspen (talk) 12:16, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe Ephesians 5:18 "Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit". In the Old Testament, there is Micah 3:5-8 which contains the following, in part "they proclaim ‘peace’ if they have something to eat, but prepare to wage war against anyone who refuses to feed them...But as for me, I am filled with power, with the Spirit of the Lord, and with justice and might," -- Jayron 32 12:55, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Another possibility is Matthew 6:19-21, "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.", which is not really about food, but does capture the OP's sentiment. -- Jayron 32 12:57, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Or are you thinking about the passages about the milk and meat of the Word? 1 Cor 3:2, Heb 5:12 are the relevant verses. --TammyMoet (talk) 16:01, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you Jayron32 and TammyMoet, but these aren't the one I'm looking for. It's okay, I'll stumble into it again some day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.96.33.44 (talk) 21:46, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * James 5? Tgeorgescu (talk) 23:22, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * John 2:10, perhaps? The moral of the story is a little different, but it does talk about how "Thou hast kept the good wine until now....."Herbivore (talk) 00:43, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've checked James 5 and John 2:10 but these aren't the one. It started with a scorning for filling yourself with what you should have passed on as unworthy and when the :time comes to claim your true sustenance you have no motivation to reach for it, being falsely satisfied

212.96.33.44 (talk) 07:31, 22 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Have you, at some point, been looking at the apocryphal gospels - Thomas and the like? Reflecting on your quote, the message does not really match with traditional Christian teaching, but does bear the hallmarks of gnostic teaching about there being something better that only the initiated would have access to. Wymspen (talk) 10:02, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but no, it wasn't apocryphal.

212.96.33.44 (talk) 20:47, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Not 1 Corinthians 8, by any chance? "For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols?" Tevildo (talk) 22:37, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * If you remember specific keywords, use . Tgeorgescu (talk) 23:27, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I appreciate it but no, it's not it and I haven't found it via searching for keywords either

212.96.33.44 (talk) 08:55, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Flag of Ireland
Hi, about this article, to depict the correct flag of Ireland in 1897, which is the correct one: Leonprimer (talk) 08:50, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
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 * Have you read List of flags of Ireland? The tricolour was first seen in 1848 but wasn't adopted as the flag of the national movement until 1916.  As part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, the national flag would have been the Union Flag.  The Cross of St Patrick was never, as far as I can see, an official symbol of Ireland, but might be suitable for your purposes.  Rojomoke (talk) 10:47, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * See WP:IRISH FLAGS for Wikipedia policy on this matter. For general information, see Cross-border flag for Ireland. jnestorius(talk) 13:04, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Moscow at the End of the Line
Hi! In the introduction to Venedikt Erofeev's Moscow at the End of the Line, he talks about having deleted most of the chapter 'Hammer & Sickle—Karacharovo' due to its obscenities, and readers' reports of being offended. I'm interested as to what the original chapter said, but can't find it from a google search. The version I'm reading only has one sentence in the chapter: 'And I drank it straight down.' Would be thankful for any help. AloofHawk (talk) 12:44, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I found Russia and Soul: An Exploration by Dale Pesmen (p. 175), which says: 'Erofeev's (1990:12) "deletion" of obscenities following the line "And I drank it straight down," leaves, of course, nothing in that chapter but that line'. This suggests two things to me: a) that the deletion was made by the author himself and b) that Pesmen believes that it wasn't a genuine deletion but rather a literary device. Of course, I may be barking up the wrong tree, as I hadn't heard of either Erofeev or his book until I read your post. Alansplodge (talk) 19:08, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * it's a literary device. For the Hammer & Sickle, see ru:Серп и Молот (платформа). --Ghirla-трёп- 07:21, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Number of women in Germany raped
Does anyone know the number of women in Germany that were raped during the Soviet invasion?24.31.242.189 (talk) 17:26, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * WP:WHAAOE. See Rape during the occupation of Germany.  -- Jayron 32 17:54, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I can't help but think of this book. --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  21:01, 21 November 2016 (UTC)