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= September 7 =

Childs Ercall Hall
I have been looking for history on this property and there is none to be found it seems. The property, I understood, had been mentioned in the Doomsday Book, there must be some history on it?!?! I live there so it clearly exists — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.213.4 (talk) 13:55, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Here is the village website. Also, there are two buildings, "Childs Ercall Hall" which seems to have existed in some form since the Domesday Book, and "Childs Ercall Jubilee Hall" which was built much more recently.  This book has some background on the older building.  -- Jayron 32 14:12, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * You might find some useful links here. The lede in the article says that in 1868 the hall was still in existence and was a farmhouse. --TammyMoet (talk) 15:00, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Here is the Domesday entry for the manor of Ercall, using the 11th century spelling of Arcalun; note that the Domesday book doesn't describe individual houses, but the existence of a manor suggests that there was a manor house of some sort too. There will be a lot more information in the Victoria County History for Shropshire; the volumes for some counties are viewable online, but apparently not the Shropshire one. Many larger reference libraries have copies. A visit to the Shropshire Archives in Shrewsbury would be your best bet. They also have a book called A short history of Childs Ercall, Shropshire., which is "currently unavailable" on Amazon. Alansplodge (talk) 10:32, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Finally, A Topographical Dictionary of England (1824) says that the living of Child's Ercall was "in the patronage of Sir Andrew Corbett, Bart.". This means that Sir Andrew had the right to present whoever he wanted to be the new parish priest, an appointment that came with a generous income. This right usually went to the lord of the manor, and our article, Corbet baronets, says that Sir Andrew Corbet, 1st Baronet (1766–1835) had his seat at Moreton Corbet, which may explain why Childs Ercall Hall was a farmhouse, if the lord of the manor was resident elsewhere. It was not uncommon for wealthy landowners to hold several manors at once. Alansplodge (talk) 17:23, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Vermont chocolates
made me wonder: does Vermont have a significant chocolate industry? Convenience link to the page given in the section above; 35% of its exports to Canada and 43% of its imports from Canada in 2014 were chocolate products, and I'm rather unsure why this would be the case. Nyttend (talk) 16:28, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I am personally unfamiliar with the chocolate products of either country (being a right-Pondian), but am aware that local regulations and customs can affect the nature and taste of chocolate markedly. Could it be that US-style chocolate is being exported to Canada, and Canadian-style chocolate to the USA, to cater for their mutual expatriots? (Yes, conjecture, entered principally to stimulate someone into shooting it down with references.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.202.211.191 (talk) 16:37, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know that this list is comprehensive, but here are reviews reviews of various Vermont chocolate producers: . -- Jayron 32 16:40, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Here are more. Many of these are probably boutique chocolate shops which may only sell out of their storefront.  -- Jayron 32 16:44, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Here is U.S. census bureau data on exports from Vermont. Chocolate is listed there.  -- Jayron 32 16:45, 7 September 2016 (UTC)


 * We have an article on Lake Champlain Chocolates, which is based in Burlington, VT. Neutralitytalk 04:50, 8 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Hershey_bar and many other chocolates made in the USA have butyric acid in them, and many people "associate this additional flavour as being that of vomit." Additionally, "The American bar's taste profile was not as popular with the Canadian public, leading Hershey to introduce a reformulated Canadian bar in 1983." In my opinion, this supports TPFKA's claims above: a lot of Vermonters want the Canadian style without butyric acid, while some Canadians do like the Hershey/American/vomit-ish flavor. SemanticMantis (talk) 13:46, 8 September 2016 (UTC)


 * In my experience Hershey's has an undernote of fæces to complement the vomit. Does anyone know what Hershey's do to get the fæcal flavour? DuncanHill (talk) 15:09, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Mention of butyric acid reminds me that when I was a kid I constructed a barometer consisting of butyric acid in a long thin evacuated tube closed at one end (presumably because it has high specific gravity).  I didn't know what I was letting myself in for.   Within a few hours the house was permeated with a foul smell and I quickly removed it to the garden. 80.44.94.57 (talk) 11:57, 9 September 2016 (UTC)