Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2017 October 20

= October 20 =

Black Death in England
In the introduction, the article states: "The Black Death was a pneumonic plague pandemic, which reached England in August 1348. It was the third and most severe manifestation of the Second Pandemic". — However, the latter says: "The second plague pandemic is a major series of epidemics of the plague that started with the Black Death". Further down, it mentions the Plague of Justinian of the 6th and 7th centuries as the first pandemic. So, isn't there a kind of twist here regarding the wording in Black Death in England?--Cleph (talk) 15:34, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * No, i don't think so. Also i didn't understand the point of your question exactly. --Kharon (talk) 17:23, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I am also puzzled by the phrase "third and most severe manifestation of the Second plague pandemic". Nowhere in the article is it explained what the three "manifestations" were, neither are they mentioned (as far as I can tell) in our Second plague pandemic or Black Death or Black Death migration articles. Perhaps there's a simple explanation, but it eludes me at present. Alansplodge (talk) 18:24, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both of you. What I mean is simply that if the Second plague pandemic article states it all began with the Black Death, then the Black Death can't have occurred as "the third and most severe manifestation of the Second Pandemic", right? This is simply illogical – unless Alansplodge and me are misunderstanding something here.--Cleph (talk) 21:14, 20 October 2017 (UTC)


 * It's vandalism inserted with this edit. I'll try a little surgery to correct it. Matt Deres (talk) 02:13, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Matt Deres (talk) 02:21, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you Matt. One in the eye for those who think that the RefDesks "provide no real encyclopedic benefit". Alansplodge (talk) 07:58, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * +1!!!--Cleph (talk) 21:07, 21 October 2017 (UTC)