Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2019 August 15

= August 15 =

Andrew Yang
What are the chances to see the project of Andrew Yang (1k dollars for everybody) implemented? And what are the chances that it would work?2402:800:61B1:2190:3136:4067:17FE:A6CF (talk) 10:57, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Probably about the same chance as him getting elected president. As to whether it would "work", define what you mean by "work". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:28, 15 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Re the second question, see Basic income pilots. 70.67.193.176 (talk) 14:28, 15 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Ah, and re the first question, here's a poll taken within the last month showing voters equally split between supporting the concept and not supporting it. Any politician could take up the idea, but we can't crystal ball here and predict the likelihood of anyone doing so. 70.67.193.176 (talk) 17:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Did the part of England that founded an American colony ever become nativist against another part?
"These newcomers from that part of England take our jobs!" "They aren't assimilating!" "They're bringing crime!" "They're bringing drugs!" "They rape too much!" "And some are good people"

Or did this kind of thing start with other countries? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 16:43, 15 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't know the answer. But while I doubt that any of those specific criticisms were voiced in the seventeenth and eightennth century, I would be amazed if there wasn't distrust and resentment between colonies from England and those from Scotland or Ireland. Or come to think of it, between colonies settled predominantly from particular parts of England. --ColinFine (talk) 17:02, 15 August 2019 (UTC)


 * On the contrary, until the the US War of Independence, history tells us that most Americans viewed themselves as British or British Subjects. It was only when a large force of troops came to the US to bolster the import/export laws to weaken Napoleonic France that the "Americans" started to feel different as the British Soldiers treated them as second class citizens and as coming from a backwater.  Anton 81.131.40.58 (talk) 17:21, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Huh?... are you discussing the war of 1812? (If so... your account is very confused.) Blueboar (talk) 22:02, 15 August 2019 (UTC)


 * UK's conflict with France was a major instigator of the American Revolution, but France was not yet "Napoleonic". Napoleon didn't come to power until the early 1800s. ApLundell (talk) 22:27, 15 August 2019 (UTC)


 * See No Irish Need Apply, for example. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:38, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Ireland is not part of England in any sense, and never has been. It was a separate country from Great Britain (although in personal union with it) until well after the end of the US War of Independence.  Nyttend (talk) 22:51, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * That suggests it later did become part of Great Britain. It never did.  This is explicitly acknowledged in the names of the UK: It was originally the United Kingdom of Great Britain, at a time when Ireland wasn't part of the equation at all. When Ireland joined the party it was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and then when the bulk of Ireland left it became the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  00:17, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


 * "There was little nativism in the colonial era" according to Nativism_(politics). The article Baseball Bugs linked above suggests that anti-Irish sentiment in North America belongs to a later era. Alansplodge (talk) 11:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Before the Independence, people would not land at some randomly chosen colony. They would either be deported as criminals (I guess they were not highly regarded, but the part of England they originated was not the reason), or arrive at some point where they expected to be welcome because they had some connection with someone who told them they would (someone from the same sect, the same land, the same lord or whatever). Gem fr (talk) 17:16, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * In the first decades of colonization, settlers going to New England tended to come from East Anglia, while those going to Virginia tended to be from Devon, Somerset and Sussex. That didn’t last long, however. There were tensions in New Amsterdam (later New York) between the Dutch and the English... but they were more due to religious differences than ethnic in origin. Blueboar (talk) 14:47, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * According to the semi-sourced Harrison Narcotics Tax Act, the idea of tying imported drugs to rape and gun crime in the American South only gained traction around the turn of the 20th century, and that was more about seeming superior to blacks and Chinese than English. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:50, 20 August 2019 (UTC)