Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2019 December 2

= December 2 =

Don Lemon’s award
Hi! I’m trying to get details on Don Lemon’s Edward R. Murrow Award that I believe he won in 2002–while working for either/ or local and national news—for his coverage of the capture of the D.C. area sniper.

The awards have a website but the listings are cryptically absent of detail. He might have won it solo or in a team, but it would be credited under the company (like WMAQ-TV). The awards are listed for either national or regional, could be either.

When I try to search anything (news, scholar, books) they drop out before I even get back to 2010. So I haven’t found any of his original stories, or reports on his reports.

I also am not seeing much of a listing of news coverage of who won the awards each year in the press. Logically they may not readily want to glow about the competition.

Any ideas? Gleeanon409 (talk) 01:47, 2 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Gleeanon409, what kinds of details do you need? About the program? Looking at the awards lists from year to year, it appears they are always given to programs, stations or networks, never to individuals.
 * We can probably come up with the name of the program that won. The awards seem to be given out one year for work the year before. So because the D.C. sniper attacks were in October 2002, the award would be counted as a 2003 Murrow Award. That list includes NBC Nightly News, New York, NY "The Arrest of the Snipers" which matches what our article says about where Lemon worked (NBC in New York) before joining CNN. But note there were also awards given to a Washington DC television station, WTTG-TV, and two radio stations, WTOP-AM and WMAL-AM, for the same topic, plus one for CBS Radio News in New York.
 * When I search "The Arrest of the Snipers" plus NBC I do get some mentions of the award linked to other individuals who participated in creating the program such as producer Alan Kaul, but no details on its content alas. 70.67.193.176 (talk) 16:49, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! You got further than my little phone and brain were doing!
 * Based on your work I’m guessing radio is not a match but "The Arrest of the Snipers" plus NBC probably is. I’m now hoping for something that can make the link from Lemon to the win, maybe a transcript of a television report of the award, or even to the story itself. I’m hoping there is any more details available, and then to see if they lead anywhere else. Gleeanon409 (talk) 22:20, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I’m happy it helped! Was worried I might cover ground you had gone over. We can at least source a link between Lemon and the award-winning program, because his CNN official profile says "He has won an Edward R. Murrow award for his coverage of the capture of the Washington, D.C. snipers."
 * You might ask at your city’s best library, or Wikipedia’s WP:RX about accessing a publication called RTNDA Communicator. Some of it seems to be in google books in snippet view, and from that it appears to be a newsletter that includes articles about the awards ceremony each year. For example, Volume 57, which seems to cover the 2004 ceremony, so you’d need Volume 56 or so for 2003.
 * I don’t think I can do much better online though. The only hits searching for both Alan Kaul and Don Lemon together are for an Emmy Award. Let’s see if eric and others here have any more luck? 70.67.193.176 (talk) 22:49, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * no hits for don AND lemon in volumes 56 or 57, one hit for "Arrest of the Snipers" v57, nos. 7-10 . The Emmy nomination .176 found was for "Arrest of the Snipers" and did list Lemon as a correspondent.&mdash;eric 17:46, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Post Hasankeyf
Now that Hasankeyf has been evacuated permanently, what is now the oldest continuously occupied town in the world? Thanks. Anton — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.131.40.58 (talk) 12:32, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * There is some uncertainty in these things, and also some variation in how one defines "continuously" "occupied" and "settlement", but this article has some good contenders. -- Jayron 32 13:02, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jayron, really appreciate it. Anton 81.131.40.58 (talk) 16:20, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks both for some interesting reading this morning! Just adding that Wikipedia has an article: List of oldest continuously inhabited cities. Interestingly, that list omits Hasankeyf. 70.67.193.176 (talk) 16:56, 2 December 2019 (UTC)