Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2019 December 29

= December 29 =

History of 21st century
Is there a way of determining the 21st century 2000s 2010s will become history of 21st century. At the bottom of 1990s 1980s 1990s 1980s and further back it has history of 20th century at the bottom of articles. Is it hard or easy or possible or impossible to determine when 2000s and 2010s will have history of 21st century written at bottom of articles like the ones of 20th century for 1990s, 1980s and backward? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:7427:6B00:1956:EEAD:8C2D:5B29 (talk) 03:28, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I assume that you mean the navbox, Template:20th century. The 21st century is certainly eligible to have a navbox, if an interested editor (even you!) wishes to create one. That being said, it will be smaller and sparser because we are only 1/5th of the way through the 21st century, so 5 times as much stuff happened in the 20th to cover with a navbox. But as for being able to determine when it will happen, it will happen as soon as an editor volunteers and gets it done. Elizium23 (talk) 03:39, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes the navbox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:7427:6B00:1956:EEAD:8C2D:5B29 (talk) 04:03, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * To create it, you would either need to create an account, or ask at the article creation request page, whatever it's called. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:20, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, there are articles for 2000s (decade) and 2010s. Presumably you want something called 2000s (century) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:23, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * There is a Template:21st_century, it was created on 14th May 2019. LongHairedFop (talk) 16:11, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I wish there were a commonly accepted character to use as a 'wild' digit other than 0. —Tamfang (talk) 03:25, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Looking for Shackleton family tree
Does anyone know how to find information on the relatives of Ernest Shackleton? Specifically I am looking for how these two, presumably a married couple (Charles Edmond and Gladys May) fit into his family tree. They are buried in the village where I grew up, and friends of my parents said that they were related to the famous explorer. I will delete the image some time on since it is unlikely to be of encyclopedic importance. There's a Gladys M Shackleton here but it seems to be a different person since she died in 1962. The Wikitree site has no children for Ernest's brother Francis. — PhilHibbs | talk 17:25, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * This family genealogy page appears to show Gladys May as a beneficiary of a will in 1945, where Charles Edmond is shown as Reverend. I couldn't find anything else. Mikenorton (talk) 19:04, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Have you explored Findagrave? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:44, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * On 26 August 1907 when Charles Edmond Shackleton (9 Jan 1882-1967) married Gladys May Grape (10 Feb 1876-1956) they said his father was "Dr. Edmond Shackleton". MilborneOne (talk) 21:51, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Charles Edmond Shackleton was born in "Tandragce Armagh" so he was Irish (Gladys was born in Plymouth). MilborneOne (talk) 22:00, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "Tandragce" is presumably a transcription error for Tandragee. In 1881 Edmond Shackleton was listed as a surgeon or apothecary on Market Street, Tandragee. Slater's Directory. DuncanHill (talk) 14:04, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Edmond Shackleton appears not to be directly related to Sir Ernest, whose father was Henry Shackleton of Kildare, grandfather was Ebenezer Shackleton (1784-1856) of Ballytore, and great-grandfather was Abraham Shackleton (1752-1818) also of Ballytore. As far as I can see, there is nobody called Edmond amongst their offspring, or their offspring's offspring. Alansplodge (talk) 11:44, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Frigg's spinning wheel in the Eddas
Are there any specific references of Frigg's spinning wheel in the Poetic or Prose Edda?

--89.210.145.239 (talk) 19:58, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Not an answer, but note: the spinning wheel is an oriental invention, not known in Europe until the high Middle Ages. The item norsemen would have known and used (just like Sleeping Beauty) is this one (see also hand spinning). Cheers ⌘  hugarheimur 14:24, 31 December 2019 (UTC)