Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2019 February 11

= February 11 =

How do I get something promoted.
REDACTED on 15:32, 13 February 2019 (UTC) by CiaPan (talk) per WP:PROMOTION WP:NOTHERE.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Stew25 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not the place to “promote” a non-notable artist... no matter how lovely his or her art work may be. The only way we can have an article on any artist is if the artist is notable... if real world (beyond Wikipedia) has already taken note of him/her. So, if you want an article about this artist named Mojer, you will need to find external sources that discuss Mojer and his/her works.  Taking a quick look on line, I don’t find anything that does so... but I admit I did not look for long. Good luck. Blueboar (talk) 22:17, 10 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I have reported the page for Speedy Deletion under the G11 criterion: Unambiguous advertising or promotion. --CiaPan (talk) 15:32, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Hours spent on smartphones
I was just reading this, and wondered where are articles with charts for age groups are. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:52, 11 February 2019 (UTC)


 * This one might help, and it has a pdf link to more data. Tamanoeconomico (talk) 23:46, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Tamanoeconomico. But is it a good source, though? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:30, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

My apologies. I am looking for our Wikipedia articles on this. I see (from my PC not device because I do not own a mobile phone) only Mobile phone overuse. Other articles? Is there enough data in sources out there to cobble together tables in a new, smashing article called Mobile phone usage by demographics and country blah blah blah or something like that - an article with a few very nice tables?

Thoughts? Anyone wish to work on this with me on their device?

'''Big page views by people on devices! Glamour! Tons of lazy outsiders using the tables in their online magazine articles viewed by people on devices.'''

Anyone? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:30, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


 * You'd have to find sources country-by-country, so it would depend on if enough countries had made a survey of hours their citizens spent using phones. Not the same but something you could do is write your redlinked article using CIA Factbook data; their mobile phone entry for each country counts raw numbers and how many mobiles per 100 people. Random examples: Uganda, 63 per 100 people. Kuwait, 179 per 100 people. raw numbers 70.67.193.176 (talk) 22:33, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes, the first part is exactly what I'd like to do. Make the article using whatever data is available, and then article visitors can add country data when surveys are made. The second part of your post is about people having phones. I'm not much interested in that. I want this to be about measuring how people in society sit about staring at them. Many thanks for the input. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

And hey, come now. Join in. What are ya, chicken? Buck buck buck. (Do people still say buck buck buck?) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * They do, but maybe not in writing. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:48, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Phantom Open Emoji 1f414.svg Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:58, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Okay, fine. I'll wait a couple of years till data comes in and things get more Orwellian. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:59, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Halime Hatun
Basically, I'm after anything anything WP-useable about this person. Sources that talks about wether she (not the tv-series character), lived, married, had children, etc. I have "read" this with gtranslate, but I'm not sure it's about the same person. Also managed to check two jstor hits but they didn't help. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:24, 11 February 2019 (UTC)


 * This link at archive.org contains a list of references with opportunities for translation. Tamanoeconomico (talk) 23:53, 11 February 2019 (UTC)


 * 10 543 results, sorted by relevance. I checked the 5 first. This had several hits on the name, but I have no idea what kind of text it is. This  had a few, and actually seems like some kind of scholarly text. Perhaps there's more a turkish-speaker can get something out of. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:27, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Side note: If you put the phrase in quotation marks to search for "Halime Hatun" appearing together instead of separately, you can narrow it to 78 results. But the English-language references seem confined to the tomb of a princess Halime built in 1358 which is the wrong timing for your Halime. That tomb was the only hit I got in google scholar too: Journal of the Society of Architectural Historians. 70.67.193.176 (talk) 22:16, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * P.S. See also the search string "mother of osman" and with the older spelling: "mother of othman" 70.67.193.176 (talk) 22:19, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks 70.67, for some reason "Halime Hatun" didn't occur to me. Well, went through the first 20, found a bunch of turkish hits on the name:


 * and  that's actually visibly relevant, fwiw I'll put it in the article. The "mother of" is interesting, but I see none where it is obvious that Osman is the right Osman. It's not impossible that the tomb is for the same Halime Hatun, but it seems improbable. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:10, 13 February 2019 (UTC)