Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2019 March 16

= March 16 =

Similar class, but a security warning
In recent times, I've discovered a poster on the Internet. I suspected it was British propaganda during World War II. The reason I say that is, because the slogan is "Don't Help the Enemy! Careless Talk May Give Away Vital Secrets". It's displayed under a Tudor Crown. Was it in the same design class as the Keep Calm and Carry On poster? Anyone know?2604:2000:7104:2F00:E442:E351:CABF:43A6 (talk) 03:55, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * What exactly do you mean by "design class"? Here is someone selling one who says it is "one of the first Ministry of Information posters issued after the outbreak of the War", so that sounds about the same to me. --76.69.46.228 (talk) 07:56, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * By "design class", I'm referring to the "Don't Help the Enemy! Careless Talk May Give Away Vital Secrets" slogan having similar typeface to Keep Calm and Carry On. Like I said before, the former's slogan is displayed under a Tudor Crown.2604:2000:7104:2F00:E442:E351:CABF:43A6 (talk) 09:56, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Design "style" would be more accurate. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:27, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Google has no results at all for your text, but a well known wartime poster campaign was "Careless Talk Costs Lives", initially illustrated by the cartoonist "Fougasse", real name Cyril Kenneth Bird CBE. Fougass's posters were rather light-hearted cartoons (like these) but later ones were sometimes a little more edgy (like this one). The only poster I could find with the crown design is this from a company which specialises in creating variations of the "Keep Calm and Carry On" poster and is surely modern. There were a series of posters in the original "Keep Calm" range, but apparently not with the "Careless Talk" slogan, which was devised after the earlier range of posters had been put into storage. The "Keep Calm" posters were not generally circulated and were not well known until a copy came to light in a second-hand bookshop in Alnwick in 2000 and it became an internet sensation. Alansplodge (talk) 14:00, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

"Madame Meerson and her Daughter" by Mary Casatt
Regarding the painting Madame Meerson and her Daughter by Mary Casatt: who was Madame Meerson, and what is known about her (and her daughter)? Thanks in advance! --Dr Dima (talk) 06:21, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * There is a small amount of info here. Not much of what you are looking for but it is interesting that the painting is actually of Madame Gaillard and Her Daughter Marie-Thérèse. The tale of how the name change happened is one of those items that makes history so fascinating. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 06:35, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I've changed the painting's title in the Mary Cassatt article per the Reynolda House Museum's description linked by MarnetteD above. Someone may want to have the folks at Commons change the file's title and description accordingly. Deor (talk) 17:40, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot!!! Kindest wishes, Dr Dima (talk) 18:17, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Metatheatre
What was the first play that use metatheatre?--87.27.156.88 (talk) 08:50, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The answer is given in the article you linked to. --Viennese Waltz 08:57, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * No, them don't say a specific Play but generally  theatre of classical Greece and then "One major purpose of this metatheatricality was to keep then spectators away from utter involvement or belief in the development of the plot presented. Ancient Greek comedy in particular made frequent use of it (though examples can also be found in tragedy)".--87.27.156.88 (talk) 09:35, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * We have only a scant and partial record of ancient Greek plays. It is likely impossible to identify the first to use the technique so described.  The best that can be said is that it predates the historical record, because it is already present in some of the oldest plays on record.-- Jayron 32 02:19, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * then what are example of metatheatre in Ancient  Greece?
 * Take Aristophanes' first play, The Acharnians. Here's Dikaiopolis in conversation with Euripides (that may in itself be metatheatre):


 * I suspect that acknowledging the audience's presence is actually the default and the establishment of a fourth wall is a revolutionary step in the development of theatre. --Wrongfilter (talk) 17:15, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Cadwallon ap Cadfan map
Are there maps of what Cadwallon ap Cadfan's realm look like? -KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:39, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It looks like we have one of Gwynedd in 620 which would be just before the beginning of his reign, and one of Britain in 626 which would be his first year. But none showing the Northumbrian conquests. You’d sort of have to draw you own conclusions from looking at general maps of where Northumbria and Gwynedd were in the 7th century. So far the wider web is foiling me; I hope a better searcher can find you something more exact than this. 70.67.193.176 (talk) 22:39, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

737 MAX 8
I see in 2019 Boeing 737 MAX groundings:
 * European Union: The European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) suspended all flight operations of all 737 MAX 8 and 9 aircraft in the EU.
 * United Kingdom: the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) banned 737 MAX aircraft from operating in UK's airspace.

Why did the UK need to ban the aircraft, surely the EU covered this? (pre-Brexit.) -- SGBailey (talk) 08:48, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


 * If I remember the CAA banned it first before EASA did although it happened on the same day it was just down to timing. MilborneOne (talk) 08:50, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Ordering peach ticket
I,m going to travel, how to order a Peach ticket?Wifik3r8bLk2Zr (talk) 13:53, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Ask your travel agent if they can print your airline ticket onto colored paper. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:14, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Presumably this is a reference to Peach Aviation. Tickets can be purchased here. That's the English page; other languages may be selected from the drop down menu at the top. Matt Deres (talk) 16:15, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Presumably the OP should have linked to that one, since the Peach article says nothing about tickets. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:52, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


 * I would say it's completely unclear what the OP wants [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_impeached_presidents&diff=prev&oldid=887718694] [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities&diff=prev&oldid=887718223]. If the OP is looking for tickets to the impeachment of Donald Trump then that's not possible because no impeachment process is really in motion Nil Einne (talk) 10:31, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * In lieu of any other explanation, I think it's totally clear what the OP wants: To prank us. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:26, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * A request for clarification should be the first order of business. One should never guess what the question might be. Bus stop (talk) 17:39, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Perry March indictment
Where could I find the 2004 Tennessee indictment of Perry March? The state/local case search system is not working for me. Thanks, GABgab 19:08, 16 March 2019 (UTC)