Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2019 November 10

= November 10 =

Prince Valdemar of Denmark
Prince Valdemar of Denmark was offered to be the monarch of a couple of new found states. The information was removed a while ago. It originally listed Norway and Bulgaria. This search list Albania and Bulgaria. This search mentions Norway but only says that Nicholas II of Russia and Kaiser Wilhelm II would prefer Valdemar on the throne not that he was offered it. Looking for sources that gives more details than these passing mentions with the date and circumstances of each throne offer. KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:32, 10 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Bulgaria is November 10th, 1886. Searching for "Valdemar/Waldemar 1886 sobranye/sobranie" will give you lots of references. The most detail account i saw was in . Albania 1913 looks more difficult.&mdash;eric 14:54, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
 * For circumstances of each offer and Bulgaria maybe .&mdash;eric 15:02, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Wied, Prince of Albania
Were there any expectations for Wied, Prince of Albania and his descendants to one day convert to Islam (the majority religion of Albania) had they stayed on the throne of Albania? KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:35, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The best English source I could find, Islamist Extremism in Kosovo and the Countries of the Region by Kolë Krasniqi (pp. 14-16) makes no mention.
 * BTW, the title of our article is a bit odd; by that convention, our own monarch would be Windsor, Queen of the United Kingdom. Alansplodge (talk) 15:17, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The move was made by someone eight months ago. I’m not sure of the historical usage myself. KAVEBEAR (talk) 16:13, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * (EC) Naming conventions (royalty and nobility) suggests the bit after the comma is potentially correct but the first part is probably not, it should be Vidi I or something else. User:Kj1595 moved the page, so maybe they can explain more (as I don't really understand their rationale). Nil Einne (talk) 16:19, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Did Adolf Hitler personally kill anyone?
Let me start by saying that I consider that Adolf Hitler was one of the most evil men that ever lived. (With that out of the way...) Is there anyone that Adolf Hitler personally killed. The closest that I can find is that as part of the Night of the Long Knives, Hitler ordered SS men to take Edmund Heines and his lover outside to be shot. I'm also excluding the Suicides (including his own) in the Fuhrer Bunker...Naraht (talk) 13:16, 10 November 2019 (UTC)


 * There's Geli Raubal -- the exact circumstances of her death are a little murky, but there's not much doubt that, at a minimum, he drove her to suicide... AnonMoos (talk) 13:35, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * If Hitler had personally killed someone, or even if we had serious suspicion, it would be quite notorious. now, we can elaborate:
 * Hitler did not kill anyone, as far as we know, before WWI.
 * The way Hitler served during WWI precludes his killing anyone then (Nothing strange here, as The average soldier in the front -- and Hitler was in HQ -- killed nobody. Most of the killing was by artillery gunners, machine gunners, snipers, and storm-troopers).
 * No trace of him killing anyone before Beer Hall Putsch. This one is really significant: during the event, he did point a gun, but did not fire it, rather, he turned to the crowd, made a speech and got their support. This was in 1923, and never again did he need to himself use a weapon (other than his eloquence). He had started having the dirty work done by someone else. Gem fr (talk) 23:19, 10 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Himself, as far as is known ... but Naraht excluded that already. Sorry. --76.69.116.4 (talk) 05:37, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Enver Hoxha supposedly shot someone during a party or government meeting. The person had the temerity to disagree with Hoxha about something, Hoxha pulled out a revolver and killed the guy, then put the gun away and continued running the meeting as if nothing had happened. Someone told me that in school so it must be true (i.e. I haven't checked it). 67.164.113.165 (talk) 03:16, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Mehmet Shehu was the man in question, although the shooting remains a plausible rumour: "In 1981 it was announced that he [Shehu] had suffered a nervous breakdown and committed suicide. The official story did not stand up and there were whispers in Tirana that Shehu had been shot and killed at a meeting of the politburo, perhaps by Hoxha himself" The same article says that Shehu is said to have strangled Koçi Xoxe the interior minister, in 1948, although our article goes with a judicial hanging. Alansplodge (talk) 21:51, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Wow! Thanks ;).  67.164.113.165 (talk) 22:15, 16 November 2019 (UTC)