Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2019 October 19

= October 19 =

Catherine the Great in Nazi propaganda
How was the ethnic German Empress Catherine the Great depicted in Nazi propaganda? Thanks. --87.18.64.165 (talk) 16:36, 19 October 2019 (UTC)


 * That would be German-born (Prussian, technically) Empress of Russia. There certainly would be potential for propaganda there, something like "See how these lowly Slavs can only prosper when under direction from a proper Aryan absolute leader ?". Don't know if they ever actually used it, though. SinisterLefty (talk) 16:42, 19 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I believe that Hitler actually did write in Mein Kampf and/or his Zweites Buch about how Russia proposed when it was led by the largely Germanic Romanov dynasty and about how it went to well when it overthrew the Romanovs and instead (allegedly) became led by Judeo-Bolsheviks. Hitler also talked about how this change of leadership eliminated Russia's right to exist as an independent state--with Russia's only value now being to provide additional Lebensraum to Germany. Seriously. Futurist110 (talk) 07:41, 20 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I assume you meant "proposed" -> "prospered" and "well" -> "hell". SinisterLefty (talk) 14:31, 20 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Was she a blonde? She did provide a good example on how to operate, by having her own husband (Peter the not-so-great) overthrown. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:52, 19 October 2019 (UTC)


 * She was a royal person and as such not popular or even hostile among "National Socialists". There are some rumors that Hitlers only interest in her case was to steal valuables like the Amber Room. --Kharon (talk) 16:54, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
 * To be a den next to his Lebensraum. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:05, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Googling Google Books for "Katharina II" published 1933-1945 does not turn up much, doesn't seem to have been a key element in NS discourse. --Soman (talk) 14:23, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Queen Victoria, possibly of a second marriage
Watching this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tysr2GAGeBQ, Prince Christian of Schleswig-Holstein initially thought he was going to be considered for a match to Queen Victoria herself. Is this claim correct/are there sources? And if so, did other royals either sought to marry the widow queen or spoke of the possibility of a second marriage. Not interested in anything about John Brown so don’t mention. KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:35, 19 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Poor Brown, hated by some then and hated now.2A00:23C4:3E0F:4400:CC12:B164:5577:FBE (talk) 00:50, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * There is a tendency of users on the Humanities desk to go on tangently related when asked a specific question. Trying to make my question directed in the right direction. KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:23, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * John Brown's love for Queen Vic was unrequited. It drove him to an early grave, where his body lies a-mouldering. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:59, 21 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I'm sure you're aware that John Brown (servant) and John Brown (abolitionist) are two completely different people. I'm not sure what the point of trying to confuse other people about this is... AnonMoos (talk) 08:39, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for providing proper links, to clarify the matter. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:25, 21 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Sorry KAVEBEAR, a thorough search found nothing as far as I can tell. Alansplodge (talk) 16:01, 21 October 2019 (UTC)