Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2021 February 8

= February 8 =

Alf Landon's motive for running in 1932
Why did Alf Landon run for governor in 1932? How did he win? I'm asking because I'm trying to expand the Alf Landon article, but I can't find any good sources or info. Please provide sources if possible. 777burger user talk contribs  04:40, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I wonder if the presence of John R. Brinkley in Kansas politics in the same period had anything to do with it. 69.174.144.79 (talk) 04:52, 8 February 2021 (UTC)


 * "The Bull Moose rebellion of 1912 brought Alf Landon into his first active participation in politics. He enrolled as county chairman under the banner of Theodore Roosevelt and from that time on was interested in local political affairs. Other than in the modest role of precinct committeeman, however, he neither sought nor held elective office until his successful campaign for Governor of his state. Landon's first experience in a larger sphere of politics was gained when he served for a short period as secretary to Governor Henry J. Allen. In 1928 he was selected by Clyde M. Reed to manage his campaign for governor. Reed was nominated. Landon was chosen Republican state chairman and under his direction the entire state ticket of his party was elected by large pluralities.
 * GOVERNOR.
 * In 1930 Governor Reed was defeated for renomination in a campaign that left the Republican party in Kansas badly disorganized, and faced with a defeat in the general election . The need was for someone who could solidify the party once more. Landon quietly submitted himself for the role and in 1932 won the Republican nomination for Governor. The success of his efforts is attested by the fact that in the ensuing race between himself, the Democratic incumbent and a crusading independent candidate, he won by a plurality of 5,600, while Roosevelt was rolling up a 75,000 majority for the Democratic national ticket. It was Alfred M. Landon who ran for governor in 1932, but Alf M. Landon who was a candidate to succeed him. The change, however, had nothing to do with numerology or occult sciences. It was only the recognition of a reality. Everybody in Everybody in Kansas knew Alf Landon and refused to acknowledge him by any other name."
 * It's a "snippet view" only, and the text above was all I was able to wring out of Google by various dark arts.
 * We don't have an article on the "Bull Moose Rebellion" but it seems to have something to do with the assassination attempt on Theodore Roosevelt, who gave a 90 minute speech with a bleeding gunshot wound in his chest and likened himself to that animal, not without justification in my opinion. Alansplodge (talk) 13:07, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * No, it has nothing to do with the assassination attempt. The Bull Moose rebellion refers to the break-away Progressive Party that Theodore Roosevelt formed in 1912 when he lost the Republican nomination that year.  It was known colloquially as the "Bull Moose Party".  Roosevelt's splinter group threw the election to Woodrow Wilson that year, as the Republican vote was split down the middle between Roosevelt and his former protege William Howard Taft.  What the article is saying is that the formation of the splinter party was instrumental in getting Landon involved in politics.  You can see in the Wikipedia article Alf Landon, "Landon supported Theodore Roosevelt's Progressive Party in 1912,"  -- Jayron 32 13:38, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that makes sense. He had already coined the "Bull Moose" term when he reused it in the shooting speech. I have created a redirect. Alansplodge (talk) 13:48, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that makes sense. He had already coined the "Bull Moose" term when he reused it in the shooting speech. I have created a redirect. Alansplodge (talk) 13:48, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Painting
Reverse image search was inconclusive for me, so what medieval painting is this one? Thanks. 212.180.235.46 (talk) 18:42, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It is The Misers by a Follower of Marinus van Reymerswaele (c. 1490-c. 1567). It has been reversed left-to-right. See here. DuncanHill (talk) 18:47, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note that this is a type of painting that was popular and was painted many times by various people. The image linked by the OP is not the same painting as the image linked by User:DuncanHill. (At least I don't think so; most details are very close, but there are some small differences in the ring on the writing hand, the fingers of the second man's hand resting on the table, etc.) --Amble (talk) 18:58, 8 February 2021 (UTC)


 * It looks like "another version (National Pushkin Museum, Moscow)" of The Two Tax Collectors, mentioned in the webpage linked to above by DuncanHill. --Lambiam 00:54, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's quite the one that the OP linked either -- the hands and ring are a little different, coins are a little different, and the poster on the wall has little dots of sticky tack. --Amble (talk) 01:21, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Not quite the same, but these two and the one in the Royal Collection are (ultimately) copies of one same work. In comparison to their differences with other very similar works ascribed as copies of a Reymerswaele (other reddish head dress; direction the character on the right is facing; the stuff on the shelf), the differences among these three are relatively insignificant. They are much closer to a version now ascribed to Quinten Massys,, which however has scissors where here these three have a parrot on a perch. --Lambiam 12:41, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

US presidents, again.


But who are the other two? German Wikipedia answered: Kyle Arrington (on the left) and Rob Ninkovich (to the right). I tend to agree, but can you please confirm? Fossa ?! 19:22, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Patriots fan here. I would concur, given the limited view of their faces, that those are Arrington and Ninkovich.  Could be wrong, but if I had to make a guess, that is who I would say they are.  The original Uncropped version shows that is clearly Arrington.  The view of Ninkovich isn't any better in the uncropped version, but that looks like him.-- Jayron 32 19:52, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm a cheesehead, does that make me less credible? I just don't know these guys. I wouldn't recognize Vince Lombardi in the supermarket. Fossa ?!  19:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * No, you're more credible than me because I, unlike you, am a complete blowhard who doesn't know anything but pretends to. If I were you, I would never assume I have an ounce of credibility.  Ask around here, people will let you know how much of a pain in the ass I am.  Still, I've watched enough of the Patriots to recognize key members of the team, and in my opinion, based on the images in the articles on those players, that they bear the closest physical resemblance to Arrington and Ninkovich, who would have been at the same White House event recognizing the members of the Super Bowl XLIX winning Patriots.  -- Jayron 32 20:08, 8 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Jayron is, as often, selling himself short. He's a good "go-to" guy on a wide range of factual matters, the kind of guy who could do well on "Jeopardy". As to Vince Lombardi, if you were to spot him in the supermarket, you would have a major news story, as he's been presumed dead for about 50 years now. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:57, 9 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Is the uncropped version available for commons? Fossa ?!  20:01, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * If you click on the image, you can find the uncropped version by clicking on the image and scrolling down to "file history". -- Jayron 32</b> 20:08, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Alawites and alcohol
Are Alawites only allowed to drink wine or are they also allowed to drink other alcoholic beverages? Futurist110 (talk) 19:54, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * As always, it depends. Fossa <sub style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">?!  20:02, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The Wikipedia article you linked to has the answer in the lead section, third paragraph, second to last sentence following the semicolon. -- Jayron <b style="color:#090">32</b> 20:04, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * "For one, the Alawites drink wine as Ali's transubstantiated essence in their rituals;[15] while other Muslims abstain from alcohol, Alawites are encouraged to drink socially in moderation." I previously saw this sentence but it doesn't actually say if "drinking socially" is only limited to wine or also includes other alcoholic beverages. Futurist110 (talk) 21:00, 8 February 2021 (UTC)


 * There is Beer in Syria, and the article Arak (drink) includes it in the category "Syrian cuisine." --M @ r ē ino 21:41, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * There are also Christians in Syria, and not all people who are nominally Muslim are also observant, so the presence of beer does not say much. A strong liquor also called arak is distilled in Indonesia, which is strongly predominantly Sunni Muslim. But yes, I think that for Alawis the halal status (permissibility) of alcohol is not restricted to wine but extends to alcoholic beverages in general. --Lambiam 11:49, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Are they only allowed Alawite wine, or can they have a nice red once in a while? Clarityfiend (talk) 20:29, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The question is, rather, is any white wine left for others? --Lambiam 15:37, 11 February 2021 (UTC)