Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2021 July 11

= July 11 =

SSR into ASSR
Were there any plans or proposals after 1956 for the dissolution of some of the Soviet Socialist Republics (SSR), annexing them to the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, maybe in the form of Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republics (ASSR)? I'm thinking especially about the Ukrainian SSR and Byelorussian SSR. Thanks! --80.180.161.98 (talk) 15:55, 11 July 2021 (UTC)


 * That would have been embarrasing, since that would have meant that the UN memberships of the two would have had to be withdrawn... The Karelo-Finnish SSR was demoted to an ASSR in 1956. AnonMoos (talk) 21:09, 11 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Are you saying that the separate SSR's of the USSR's had their own UN memberships? I never knew that and it surprises me.  I guess it's not quite like separate US states having their own memberships but I had thought that the USSR was one country.  Was/is there a similar situation with the countries of the UK (England, Scotland, etc.)? 2602:24A:DE47:BA60:8FCB:EA4E:7FBD:4814 (talk) 06:45, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * No, just the Ukrainian and Byelorussian SSRs had this special status. There is brief mention made in the article Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic as to why - apparently a clause or two in the SSR's constitution: "It is, however, important to note that in 1944 the Ukrainian SSR was permitted to establish bilateral relations with countries and maintain its own standing army. This clause was used to permit the republic's membership in the United Nations. Accordingly, representatives from the "Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic" and 50 other nations founded the UN on 24 October 1945. In effect, this provided the Soviet Union (a permanent Security Council member with veto powers) with another vote in the General Assembly." Presumably the same arrangement occurred for the Byelorussian SSR but not the other SSRs of the Soviet Union. 220.244.176.56 (talk) 10:17, 14 July 2021 (UTC)